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Cocked N Locked #6583204
07/28/19 08:33 PM
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I'm a fan of the 1911 platform. What are your opinions on carrying, at home or in your vehicle cocked n locked? I prefer it myself.

Just this morning around 7. I had two unwanted males parked 10 yards deep in my driveway. My driveway is 230 yards long with cow pasture on both sides that is fenced. No way to turn around except to back out or go all the way to my house and turn around. I thought about blocking them in and taking a position across my hood. But I realized I had my wifes new suv and my piece was in my truck. So I backed out and then they backed out and I chased them a good bit to reinforce the message. No tags.
So. now my neighbors are on alert and my wife is loaded for bear while I'm at work tonight. And yes, I drove my truck and have my piece with me.
Here in S.C, my actions would have been within the law when on private property and the nature of the scene. Especially with my wife at home alone. Sarge


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583215
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Cocked and locked is the only way to carry a 1911 IMO. I to like the platform and according to my wife own entirely to many of them. grin

Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583218
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I carry fairly often; usually a Glock.

I don't normally carry one in the chamber.

a. I'm not LE.; so not a "target", per se.
b. I'm "situationally aware" and believe I'll have time to chamber a round, if needed.

if situations dictate, I'm perfectly willing to change my normal operation.

Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583220
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I'm glad nothing happened and your wife is loaded while your at work. Hopefully they got the point.

I too carry cocked and locked. My dad would flip out if he was alive and knew. But those 2-3 seconds to put the initial round in chamber could mean a world of difference.

Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583246
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Condition 1 is the best way to carry a 1911.


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583248
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I never carried a single action but if I did it would be cocked and locked. The DA/SA I carried for decades always had one in the chamber and the safety was off. The long, heavy trigger pull for the first double-action shot was safety enough, same as many newer double-action only pistols.

My current everyday carry is a Sig-Sauer DAO with no manual safety. I carry it with a round chambered.

I have read where Sig is now make a MS (manual safety) variant of the P365.


Eh...wot?

Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583251
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Personally if I am carrying then she will be ready to rock and roll. In a stressful situation not having to think about loading first will be extremely beneficial.


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583253
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If it’s not ready to go bang you might as well not even carry. I have a few 1911’s and love them except for concealed carry, just too dang hard to hide. I prefer one I forget I’m wearing. I was never a Glock fan until I found the 43X. That is one sweet little gun...it to will go bang after drawing.

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Cocked and locked on my 1911 but a short barreled 12 gauge is still my preferred “go to” weapon!


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: Lugnut] #6583256
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I never carried a single action but if I did it would be cocked and locked. The DA/SA I carried for decades always had one in the chamber and the safety was off. The long, heavy trigger pull for the first double-action shot was safety enough, same as many newer double-action only pistols.

My current everyday carry is a Sig-Sauer DAO with no manual safety. I carry it with a round chambered.

I have read where Sig is now make a MS (manual safety) variant of the P365.


Tell me more? Have been thinking of getting a p365 for the wife. Is it something they just come out with? I like the idea of 12 plus 1. Black Talons all the way. Sarge


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583264
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When I carry you can bet it is cocked and locked

Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583272
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The Sig P365 is available in a few new configurations, including one with a manual safety and the newer P365XL.

Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583277
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1911 black label slim in 380 love it , except for all the safety BS


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583283
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S&W 5906 and yep one in the spout.


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583286
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
Originally Posted by Lugnut
I never carried a single action but if I did it would be cocked and locked. The DA/SA I carried for decades always had one in the chamber and the safety was off. The long, heavy trigger pull for the first double-action shot was safety enough, same as many newer double-action only pistols.

My current everyday carry is a Sig-Sauer DAO with no manual safety. I carry it with a round chambered.

I have read where Sig is now make a MS (manual safety) variant of the P365.


Tell me more? Have been thinking of getting a p365 for the wife. Is it something they just come out with? I like the idea of 12 plus 1. Black Talons all the way. Sarge


The 365 was introduced in January last year, at the SHOT show in Los Vegas is my understanding. The wife and I like ours a lot. They came with two 10-rd mags, one flush and one extended. I traded the wife my flush for her extended so I can get a full grip. She has smaller hands and is comfortable with the flush mags.

We haven't sprung for the 12-rd mags yet but intend to. They say "Sig" on them so be prepared to pay extra.

I see where Sig now has a 15-rd mag available for the 365.

There was some controversy with the first generation, broken firing pins and defective night-sights. I don't know how much was true and how much was internet bull crap. Sig has been pretty tight-lipped about it. Supposedly the newer ones (2nd gen?) have had all the issues ironed out and there are plenty of YouTube vids claiming thousands of rounds with no failure-to-fires.

All in all it's a pretty impressive little pistol, supposedly built around the double-stack mag. Most pistols that size hold 6 + 1, not 10 +1 or more with the available hi-cap mags.

We probably have over 500 rounds through ours with zero FTF's.

I did a lot of research before this purchase. In addition to the high capacity I really like the fact that there is no safety to fool with, especially for the wife if she ever finds herself in a high-stress situation. Just pull the trigger and it goes bang.

I think trigger and grip safeties are stupid.


Eh...wot?

Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583287
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on a 1911 condition 1 or 3 but 2 is a bad idea.

I carry a glock with a round in the chamber , the safety on that type of gun is the holster , this isn't really any less true of the manual safety guns , plenty of times I pulled my manual safety frame mounted safety gun from it's holster and the safety had worked off in the holster.

a good holster that protects the trigger is important with any gun carried with a round in the chamber.

full size guns are great but the gun that is with you is better than the gun you left at home or in the in the other truck.


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SGT C, is everything ok with you? For a while now I’ve been concerned with you from the posts you’ve made. I don’t know if you’re on medication or if it’s just an age thing (I know you’re up there in age). But I get the feeling you’re very close to killing somebody or want to for that matter.

I hope I’m wrong. I know what I’m saying can be taken wrong and prob get a bunch of hate from people on here and the Canadian jokes will come in. But seriously, I think there’s something wrong. Hope you don’t kill an innocent person.


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: SGT. C] #6583294
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Thanks Lugnut, I like the feel and looks of the 365. 15 rounder, liking it even better.
I might have to get one in hot pink. Any guy who carries a hot pink pistol should be left well alone. LOL... Sarge


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Re: Cocked N Locked [Re: Jurassic Park] #6583302
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
SGT C, is everything ok with you? For a while now I’ve been concerned with you from the posts you’ve made. I don’t know if you’re on medication or if it’s just an age thing (I know you’re up there in age). But I get the feeling you’re very close to killing somebody or want to for that matter.

I hope I’m wrong. I know what I’m saying can be taken wrong and prob get a bunch of hate from people on here and the Canadian jokes will come in. But seriously, I think there’s something wrong. Hope you don’t kill an innocent person.


Everything is good here. Don't want to shoot anyone that doesn't need it. What happened when I was in the service is one thing, but to face a gunman in a hospital and be shot at is totally something different. And yes. it does change a person, I'm more in tune to my surroundings then ever before. I take great pride in protecting my workplace and the people who serve this community. My wife, kids, dogs and home is totally off limits. No questions or mercy will be rendered.
I appreciate your concern. But all is well here until it's not.
I seem to be in the right place the last few months to protect lives. I helped a lady who was running into 4 lanes of traffic trying to commit suicide a couple of weeks and now the incident at home. Sarge


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Ok good! Glad you didn’t take what I said wrong. I didn’t know how to say it without making it sound bad. Sometimes things on here can be taken differently then how I mean them if I said them in person.


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