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Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod #6602507
08/24/19 11:37 PM
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I have a few Sleepy Creek 1.5's that I was going to change the chain on. They come from the factory with double loop chain, albeit fairly heavy double loop, over to machine chain. I cut the double loop off of the 1st trap and found that neither a j-hook nor an s-hook will not fit through the loop on the bottom of the trap. Short of cutting the loop off and adding a base plate does anyone have any ideas on what to do? Should I just leave the link of double loop and go from there and not worry about it. Primarily they will be used for coon and fox but a coyote is always a possibility which is why I was going to switch out the chain.

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Last edited by Nate L; 08/24/19 11:39 PM. Reason: Clarification of chain type
Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6602558
08/25/19 04:29 AM
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I bought a couple dozen SC 1.75 last year and the original owner replaced the chain. He used the small quick connects to do it. I didn't notice this when I bought them, but he was using the sales to buy larger traps due to large number of coyotes he was catching. All the quick connects looked fine, I just made sure they were tight.

There was a thread earlier this year about strength of these (test ~250lbs ??). After reading that, I feel comfortable with set up. I will try to send a pic later today.

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Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6602567
08/25/19 05:51 AM
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Maybe use a nail j-hook and weld it since they seem to have a little bit bigger loop on them. Buy a trappers bender and you can make as many as you want for the cost of a box of nails.

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6602603
08/25/19 07:37 AM
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I had the same problem on some SC #11's that the factory chain was worn at the swivel on the base like in your picture. I looked at a lot of solutions, neither of the two I came up w is easy, but both are strong. #1 is to use the "S" hooks sold by the trapper supply places that are bigger on one end, most call them stake s hooks. Even w these you will need to use a drift punch to open the loop on the trap a small amount. #2. I made some Sterling swivels but the piece that goes through the loop on the trap has to be made from a 16d nail as a 20d won't fit through. If you pm me your phone # I can text a pic. I can't get pictures downloaded on here for some reason.

Personally, I would leave the stock chain, there have been a lot of coyotes that have met their demise due to double loop chain.

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6602641
08/25/19 08:45 AM
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That factory chain is strong leave to the first swivel.
Or use fencing staples and a nut to weld a swivel right on it.
Or add a PIT swivel there.

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6602790
08/25/19 12:45 PM
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Buy large split washers (5/8" I believe). Open em up, put em on, close em back and tack weld on each side. Then attach your j-hook. I use to run a bunch of SCs and never had the split washer comprimised... and I used them for coyotes.


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Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6603100
08/25/19 08:41 PM
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I use #3 chain. Open it up, slide it in and tac it shut. On a 1.5 I think one link and the swivel will lay under the free jaw when ya bed it
Works for me

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6603130
08/25/19 09:15 PM
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Thanks everyone for the ideas. It gives me some things to try. Hopefully I will get to it on the next week. If I come up with any epiphanies I will let you all know.

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6603359
08/26/19 10:25 AM
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That split washer idea is a good one- lock washer worked the best for me. Swivels made with Bob Custer's bender using nails work too. Fence staples work as mentioned above


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Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6603370
08/26/19 10:40 AM
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Hey Nate,

I just used small lap links and welded them shut.

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6604135
08/27/19 10:01 AM
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Bet a JC Conner rod swivel would work. http://www.jcconner.com/hardware.html


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Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6604147
08/27/19 10:27 AM
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If you're going to weld something just cut the chain link, open it, put it over the clevis on the trap and weld it back together.

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6607746
09/02/19 02:24 AM
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I'd take the attachment point off. I hate those things sticking me in the leg. But if you want it there, you could drill the rivets out, put in a D ring and weld it back on. Sounds like you can weld. I'd weld it whatever you do if you think coyotes are possible.

Re: Sleepy Creek 1.5 Chain Mod [Re: Nate L] #6608492
09/02/19 10:26 PM
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Thanks again for the info and new ideas. Yes I do have access to a welder so welding options are on the table. I have several non-trapping related projects going right now so I am a bit behind on getting these things finished up. I did make up a trappers bender this weekend similar to a Bob Custer model so I can make up a few parts. The split washers seem like an easy solution. I think I may do two or three different things to see what I like best. I will post pictures of them all when I get them done.

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