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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604096
08/27/19 09:04 AM
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Can't be a doe tag, you can shoot an antlerless buck fawn, so doe tag is out

Can't be tags as they don't have an actual tag anymore.

gotta call it something, why so upset about?

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604097
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Well conservation here states that a spike buck with antlers shorter than 4” is a antlerless deer.
So in a season when it’s bucks only (which is often), we can’t shoot them.


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Dirty D] #6604120
08/27/19 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
Can't be a doe tag, you can shoot an antlerless buck fawn, so doe tag is out

Can't be tags as they don't have an actual tag anymore.

gotta call it something, why so upset about?



what's your solution?

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604128
08/27/19 09:57 AM
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And there are plenty of idiots who want government run health care! mad


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604129
08/27/19 09:57 AM
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And to be truthful, that's not really upsetting. It's just another sign of the times.

What's upsetting to me personally is this registration by 5:00 pm they day following the kill, or should I say harvest authorization.

We deer camp in the river bottoms. No cell phone service. So if I harvest authorize Saturday morning, I've got to get this deer registered by 5:00 Sunday afternoon. That means running across the river, trailering the boat, and driving up to the bluff top where I can get a signal to call the kill, oops . . the harvest authorization in.

When do I do that? During the day Saturday? I've got 8 antlerless harvest authorizations to fill! I wouldn't want to take precious hunting time to do it, eh? Saturday night in the dark? That's not safe. So it's either screw away deer hunting time Saturday or Sunday to register my harvest authorization.

What happened to registering your deer by the end of the deer season?

There's absolutely no justification in this procedure. There will be no closure of any unit dependent on the deer kill . . . harvest authorizations . . . in that area. It's only to satisfy the bean counters in Madison.

What if you're at a deer camp up north and it's an old logging road that only a tractor can navigate. No cell phone service. This was the deer camp Dad and I hunted at back in the 60s. All the deer were registered the last Sunday when fellas walked out following the tractor with a trailer hauling gear out. The camp continues to this day. Are these fellas making a daily trip to find cell phone service or a tavern where they'll register the harvest authorization? C'mon . . . .

Sheesh! I'm starting to sound like the Beav here.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604132
08/27/19 09:59 AM
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I always shoot my deer that last day I hunt......

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604134
08/27/19 10:00 AM
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wise guy

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604138
08/27/19 10:12 AM
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I tried to get a State tag for turkey last year I found the Go Wild system confusing. When I tried to get my license and apply for leftover tags it was a wait to get into the system, then I bought my license and it kicked me out and I had to start over to put in for a tag, by then it was to late!


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604159
08/27/19 10:41 AM
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Well then, I shall euthanize my harvest authorizations to fullfill my protein supplement requirements for the climate changing period of 2019/2020 using a forcibly propelled projectile


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: EdP] #6604180
08/27/19 11:15 AM
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Fish and Game Departments now becoming politically correct.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604189
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That has a politically correct ring to it.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604196
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It is sanitizing the language. They want us to harvest deer. Do they grow out of the ground? No, I am killing a deer. I don;t care for the sanitizing, nor do I care for the other end of the spectrum. Phrases like whackin and stackin, or pilin em up don't appeal to me either.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604234
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A lot of new regs and rule changes are just someone's attempt to justify their salary. If they aren't doing something (good or bad, doesn't matter) then they could be replaced by a wood post.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604245
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sort of reminds me of Gorge Carlin's bit on Shell shock



this was 30 years ago

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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604336
08/27/19 04:38 PM
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Don't even get a stinking tag in some States they get by on the cheap and we pay more. Nothing like taking a piece of paper into the woods on a wet day to babysit it.

Here we do it all on line and still get charged a fee to do it our self!


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604483
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Lol. Great guy. He preformed couple a free shows for our armed troops over seas on location.


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604555
08/27/19 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskrat
We call these doe tags. Okay, antlerless tags. Nope, now they're antlerless harvest authorizations. What next? Same for otter tags, fisher tags . . .

Originally Posted by Muskrat
Here's the number one candidate for cluster of the regs:

34.84 MB worth

https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/fishing/documents/regulations/TroutRegsFull1920Press.pdf

Mike, I'm laughing and crying at the same time. At first, I was laughing until my sides hurt, and then just as I was about to make a joke about the trout regs, I recalled that my decorated WWII veteran father in law gave up trout fishing on his own (which he loved) because he can't decipher the regs anymore. When we get time we'll take him along trout fishing with us, after we superimpose the trout stream color coded map over the map (with the necessary roads) from a gazetteer to establish stream access locations and formulate a plan of attack. There. That was easy. laugh


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604688
08/28/19 04:51 AM
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I know I can be a bit wordy & confusing, but d*mn.. hunting regs should be much easier to get through

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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604699
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Muskrat- it looks like the 5:00pm cut-off is critical to sound wildlife management... I'm sure they have statisticians waiting for you to scale the bluff to process your information in a timely manner.

I'm also with Law Dog- Who did my $.21 convenience? ... after I navigated the phone lottery pool at 9:45am to be told at 10:00 am I was in the queue as #17,542 or had the luxury of driving to a DNR Licensed Authorization Agent (also known as a gas station)
[Linked Image]

Ok- now I feel better that I put my 2 cents worth in or $.21

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604715
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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Here's the number one candidate for cluster of the regs:

34.84 MB worth

https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/fishing/documents/regulations/TroutRegsFull1920Press.pdf



I don't know Mike, maybe you should switch to decaf laugh

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