First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
#6617973
09/15/19 09:03 PM
09/15/19 09:03 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Dudley NC
Muddawg
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Dudley NC
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On my web site, Facebook page and Google add, I've had nothing but glowing, 5 star reviews.
So imagine my surprise when Square Points sent me an e-mail to inform me of negative feedback from a customer.
It read as follows:
Unknown Charge
The customer service was fine. The concern was that I was quoted $285 when I submitted my credit card for payment I was informed that the bill was $368.50. A difference of $83
Okay. Here’s what really happened. A lady called me to come remove the gray squirrels from her attic. They had gained entry through the facial boards behind the gutter.
But she asked what would it cost? I informed her that my squirrel jobs STARTED at $285. But it could go up from there depending on what I may have to do or how long it took. She agreed and I went out on Monday to set it up, positive sets in the entry points. I had Momma squirrel the next morning. But there were still young in the nest. It took a good couple days before they got hungry enough to venture out and I took the last one from the trap on Saturday morning. I left my traps in place for a couple more days to be certain that we had them all. That Monday morning, a full 7 days from beginning the job, I took out my traps, sealed the entry points and presented the bill.
Long story short, it took 3 days more than the original $285 starting price at an extra $150, bringing the total to $435. To help her out, I GAVE her 2 trips, saving her $100. I wrote the bill for $335.
Then she asked if she could pay with a credit card. I informed her that would be fine but I would have to charge an extra percentage to cover the cost of processing as I get charged for each card I take. She agreed and so I added 10% brining her final total to $368.50, still a bargain for removing a family of squirrels and sealing entry points to prevent further problems.
I charged her for no materials and GAVE her a $100 discount right off the top! But, sadly, you just can’t make some people happy, no matter what you do.
Muddawg
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6618045
09/15/19 09:53 PM
09/15/19 09:53 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
West Michigan
Getting There
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West Michigan
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Once in a while I will give a price to trap mole. Some yard are real big and they do not want to pay for the hole yard so I give them a price from point A -B. Well a mole pop's up in point C and they want the trap for the same price. So I make it a point to let them know what the limits are from the get go. But some of those jobs can take a long time when there are family's involved. But you know you give her a good price for a good job.
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6618123
09/15/19 11:33 PM
09/15/19 11:33 PM
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Joined: Apr 2015
Eastern Iowa
Joe Taylor
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Eastern Iowa
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I charged her for no materials and GAVE her a $100 discount right off the top! But, sadly, you just can’t make some people happy, no matter what you do. Negative reviews suck. I would reach out to her and see if you can find common ground. She might be willing to remove the bad review. Here are my two cents, so ignore if that’s not what you’re looking for: Wait a day or two, you saying “you just can’t make some people happy” makes it sound like you are still heated about it. That won’t help. Maybe there was just a miscommunication. Generate an invoice that shows the original charges plus the discount. Explain that you are sorry (or you feel bad) that you didn’t sufficiently explain the breakdown of work that you performed that led to the charges. Let the blame fall on yourself. If you want to win her over, it won’t work to argue that she heard wrong. I have no doubt that you provided professional work and the charges assessed are fair. If she truly just misunderstood, then you may be able to win her back over to a favorable review, or at least removing the bad review.
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6618175
09/16/19 05:57 AM
09/16/19 05:57 AM
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Joined: Oct 2014
Mass
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Mass
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“you just can’t make some people happy” This is a very true statement once someone feels wronged.
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Joe Taylor]
#6618186
09/16/19 06:47 AM
09/16/19 06:47 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
pennsylvania
rick brocious
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pennsylvania
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I charged her for no materials and GAVE her a $100 discount right off the top! But, sadly, you just can’t make some people happy, no matter what you do. Negative reviews suck. I would reach out to her and see if you can find common ground. She might be willing to remove the bad review. Here are my two cents, so ignore if that’s not what you’re looking for: Wait a day or two, you saying “you just can’t make some people happy” makes it sound like you are still heated about it. That won’t help. Maybe there was just a miscommunication. Generate an invoice that shows the original charges plus the discount. Explain that you are sorry (or you feel bad) that you didn’t sufficiently explain the breakdown of work that you performed that led to the charges. Let the blame fall on yourself. If you want to win her over, it won’t work to argue that she heard wrong. I have no doubt that you provided professional work and the charges assessed are fair. If she truly just misunderstood, then you may be able to win her back over to a favorable review, or at least removing the bad review. X 2
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6618291
09/16/19 10:16 AM
09/16/19 10:16 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Dudley NC
Muddawg
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Dudley NC
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Joe,
Thanks for the advice. I will take it into consideration.
limestone,
Unfortunatly, there is no contract. At least nothing in writting. Small jobs useually get a verbal agreement and I get it done. But, it is something for me to consider for the future. Maybe get a standardized contract printed up where all we have to do is fill in the blanks and sign it. I'll be checking in to that. Thanks.
Muddawg
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6618654
09/16/19 08:47 PM
09/16/19 08:47 PM
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Joined: Oct 2015
Maine
mainer
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Maine
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If that is your first and only negative review, I won't worry about it too much. Speaking for myself, when I see a single negative review among many glowing reviews, I ignore the negative completely. It's an outlier that doesn't reflect the trend so-to-speak. I would let it slide and chalk it up to a learning experience.
Also, I wouldn't bargain with her regarding the review -- just not a good practice.
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6618713
09/16/19 09:39 PM
09/16/19 09:39 PM
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Joined: May 2014
Southwest Michigan
Michigan Trappin
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Southwest Michigan
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I have a location in my contract where I right in a good faith estimate. Here I put my total I think it could come to the high number
So say set up fee $145 up front Per animal fee $65 after completion
If I think I will catch up to 6 animals I write in $ 535 estimated
Then if when I’m done it was less than 6 animals they are happy
If I think from my discussion with them that they want a straight fee. I would take off one charge and have them pay $ 470 up front
Not perfect. But it works out in the averages
I love the bird lovers that feed the birds and then have me catch the coins and opossum. Set up fee with 13 captures are $$$
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6618888
09/17/19 07:27 AM
09/17/19 07:27 AM
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Joined: Feb 2016
Washington
wildflights
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Washington
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... Then she asked if she could pay with a credit card. I informed her that would be fine but I would have to charge an extra percentage to cover the cost of processing as I get charged for each card I take. She agreed and so I added 10% brining her final total to $368.50, ...
The way you write the above sentence, it sounds like she may not have known the additional charge was 10% for using a card. 10% would tick me off if I didn't know that before handing over a card. In my mind- 3% seems normal, 5% seems stiff but it is what it is. 10% is making money on the bank charges.
Last edited by wildflights; 09/17/19 07:29 AM.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6619975
09/18/19 08:45 PM
09/18/19 08:45 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Dudley NC
Muddawg
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Dudley NC
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About the card percentage. She was fully aware of it when she asked about paying by card. I recomended check, cask or money ordey that would not cost her extra but she insisted on card. And as far as the amount of percentage, Square Points charges me more than 3 percent..
No. What she was upset over was the job went over starting price. I never gave her a quote. Just an idea of what it could cost.
Anyway, the only place that negative feedback will show up is in my Square Points records. Not on my web page, not on my Google add and not on Facebook. No one will ever see it anyway. Besides, I did a good job at a fair price and even gave her a deduction. I could not have been more fair. If she wants the job done for free, then let her call somebody else.
Muddawg
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6620379
09/19/19 11:59 AM
09/19/19 11:59 AM
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Joined: Feb 2016
Washington
wildflights
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What does Square charge you? Their website says the fee is 2.75%.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: wildflights]
#6624086
09/24/19 01:07 PM
09/24/19 01:07 PM
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South Dakota
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South Dakota
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What does Square charge you? Their website says the fee is 2.75%.
I have used Square recently, and it was around 3% so I'm not sure where the 10% fee comes from either. Not hating on you Muddawg, because I think she got one heck of a deal for what all you did, but 10% for using a credit card seems STEEP! Probably not her only issue though.
Last edited by _fletch_; 09/24/19 01:12 PM.
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6825179
04/01/20 06:02 AM
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Ohio
Willy Firewood
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Ohio
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Do not trust Square. They always side with the consumer. They owe me some money. Chargeback after the job was completed. Reason: the customer changed his mind.
That was after signing an agreement which detailed the work along with the beginning and ending date. After completion and a thank you, the next thing i heard was the chargeback. I called the customer who hid behind square.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: First Time for Everything, "Bad Review"
[Re: Muddawg]
#6836709
04/10/20 06:53 AM
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Joined: Jul 2017
Ohio
Willy Firewood
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If the job is not worth doing paperwork and using your form contract, then the job is not worth doing at all. If you proceed without a written document, you are asking for trouble.
Your comprehensive fill in the blanks contract must document everything and very clearly states the terms. Design your document for how you price jobs then give it to your lawyer to create into a contract.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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