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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: blackhammer] #6625813
09/26/19 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhammer
I find no pleasure in an auction company failing or trappers getting stuck with bad checks. Guess that’s just me



Nor Do I.

But neither do I shy away from pointing out this company's

unethical business practices when they put the Mink Rancher's

financial Interests far ahead of the Wild Fur Trapper's well being.

Two or more competing Auction Houses are a good thing

along with Independent, In-country fur buyers.

We need all these for a thriving, healthy fur industry.

NAFA put themselves in this situation,

and have no one to blame but themselves.

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6625814
09/26/19 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by blackhammer
I find no pleasure in an auction company failing or trappers getting stuck with bad checks. Guess that’s just me



Nor Do I.

But neither do I shy away from pointing out this company's

unethical business practices when they put the Mink Rancher's

financial Interests far ahead of the Wild Fur Trapper's well being.



w

Is that an unethical business practice,,or just a business decision?I do agree that they put the mink ranchers ahead of the fur trappers,,and while I didn't like it,,they are a business to make money.And at the time,,they thought that was the right way to go??

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: upstateNY] #6625816
09/26/19 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by walleyed



Nor Do I.

But neither do I shy away from pointing out this company's

unethical business practices when they put the Mink Rancher's

financial Interests far ahead of the Wild Fur Trapper's well being.



w

Is that an unethical business practice,,or just a business decision?


It certainly could be both, upstate.

But there have undeniably too many been circumstances

over the years where wild fur trappers have been held out to dry

by NAFA with little to no representation for Us supposed

company owners by Our WFSC reps.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: upstateNY] #6625820
09/26/19 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY

Is that an unethical business practice,,or just a business decision?I do agree that they put the mink ranchers ahead of the fur trappers,,and while I didn't like it,,they are a business to make money.And at the time,,they thought that was the right way to go??


A business decision to make money for their company is one thing,

but The pendulum as swung so far in the direction of the mink rancher's

that it has possibly made NAFA so financially Insolvent

that they will drag "we" wild fur trappers down with them.

w


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6625822
09/26/19 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by upstateNY

Is that an unethical business practice,,or just a business decision?I do agree that they put the mink ranchers ahead of the fur trappers,,and while I didn't like it,,they are a business to make money.And at the time,,they thought that was the right way to go??


A business decision to make money for their company is one thing,

but The pendulum as swung so far in the direction of the mink rancher's

that it has possibly made NAFA so financially Insolvent

that they will drag "we" wild fur trappers down with them.

w




Well,I hope not for us.I agree with you about when they catered to the mink ranchers rather than the trappers.Come back to bite them and us I suppose.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6625823
09/26/19 02:48 PM
09/26/19 02:48 PM
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man,you'd think it was your birthday or somethin.









Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: pcr2] #6625828
09/26/19 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
man,you'd think it was your birthday or somethin.



KUMBAYA !!!!! laugh

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6625871
09/26/19 04:09 PM
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Ain't worried, they'll get my fur again this year.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6625877
09/26/19 04:24 PM
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So how did nafa cater to the mink ranchers? Or are you guys just pulling that out your rear ends because it sounds good. Seems to me the mink ranchers have the worst market since like ever.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6625879
09/26/19 04:27 PM
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:D,good one









Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6625909
09/26/19 05:07 PM
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You do have to ask the question, how could they possibly screw this up. How many ranch mink do they sell in a season? 10 million? 10mill at $25, times 18 percent commission is $45 million plus don’t Nafa do most of not all the handling?

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: mink99] #6626096
09/26/19 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mink99
So how did nafa cater to the mink ranchers? Or are you guys just pulling that out your rear ends because it sounds good. Seems to me the mink ranchers have the worst market since like ever.

But trappers did not destroy your market


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6626105
09/26/19 08:27 PM
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Good grief! There are still people that don't know that nafa helped finance this debacle? Wow.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: Dirt] #6626133
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by mink99
So how did nafa cater to the mink ranchers? Or are you guys just pulling that out your rear ends because it sounds good. Seems to me the mink ranchers have the worst market since like ever.

But trappers did not destroy your market










I know that, you know that, heck everybody knows that.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: alaska viking] #6626134
09/26/19 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Good grief! There are still people that don't know that nafa helped finance this debacle? Wow.


That's a pretty big stretch if your referring to feed loans.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: mink99] #6626301
09/27/19 02:13 AM
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Please contact NAFA directly relative to this matter with your information:

1. Trapper Name
2. Account Number
3. Cheque Number
4. NSF fees, if applicable.

The situation will be rectified.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6626684
09/27/19 02:12 PM
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Well, hopefully NAFA will rethink their misguided and divisive Vision 2020 fur registration project.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6626751
09/27/19 03:27 PM
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I think the checks are certifiable, sustainable, and traceable.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6626804
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Have to admit the timing is exemplary

Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6626826
09/27/19 05:15 PM
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I would think by now NAFA should have a grasp on the check numbers that are bad and be reaching out to those shippers. Yet it appears to be the shippers duty to respond if they want reimbursed!
And still no public announcement or acceptance of the inconvenience.






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