Re: Bucksnbull
[Re: jbyrd63]
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09/27/19 12:18 PM
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I have no dog in this fight, but your link supports Bucksnbear's point that he did not say the word "over". I'm a confessed " Trophy Hunter". That being said, I'm that way because I Can! Have shot truckloads of deer, probably pushing 400. Shooting a deer is quite easy where I hunt. I routinely pass up 30-60 bucks a year while archery hunting. I choose to wait for older age class deer but to restrict those that are happy just to be out there and shooting a buck sucks! Most don't have the time/ properties as " trophy hunters" . As for the genetic thing..., Your NOT gonna shoot genetics out of free ranging deer! Does have just as much to do with genetics as do bucks. Do I like antler restrictions?, No! I will shake hands and help drag anyone that shoots a small buck.
Thier tag. So unless you can find where he says "over" in reference to 400 deer, you should pay the Trapperman Defense Fund. Keith
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Re: Bucksnbull
[Re: jbyrd63]
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09/27/19 12:21 PM
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" pushing" 400 ain't " over" 400 "I ran away so fast" An older gentleman, seems it was YOU who did the avearge How deep of a hole you digging for yourself Do you need a backhoe? And yeah, I hunt VERY good areas Oh, and thanks too the member who found that tread. Dang, one more edit. Since you thought I should pay that bet, does that mean YOU accepted the bet?
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swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 02:00 PM
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I would venture to guess that I live within 30 miles of BnB and I'd venture to guess I routinely pass up 30 bucks a year during rifle and muzzloader season. That's different bucks, if we are counting multiple sightings of the same ones than higher. Yes we have good deer hunting. If Dave hunts by where he lives it's really good. I know of one that was shot east of him about 10 miles that scored well over 200 nontypical several years ago.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Bucksnbull
[Re: jbyrd63]
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09/27/19 02:34 PM
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Heck Steve, I heard of and seen pics of one last year about 1 1/2 miles away that looked to be that big. I " think" I seen him a few nights before rifle season. Oh , and JByrd, I'd REALLY like you or anyone else the thread about the 200 inch bucks I got on cams
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 02:45 PM
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I would venture to guess that I live within 30 miles of BnB and I'd venture to guess I routinely pass up 30 bucks a year during rifle and muzzloader season. That's different bucks, if we are counting multiple sightings of the same ones than higher. Yes we have good deer hunting. If Dave hunts by where he lives it's really good. I know of one that was shot east of him about 10 miles that scored well over 200 nontypical several years ago. Boy you nailed that one 9r. For all the hunting, fishing, and business he and I have done I have not been on the invite list for a whitetail hunt. I have been in that country and the country down there where he owns land to the west and I am very envious of the quantity and quality of deer. My area would be considered the deer barrens in contrast. I do not know anyone else who spends as much time as Bucks does outdoors watching learning and figuring out why critters do what they do and when. You may not like the way he prints it or says it but if he makes a remark it’s from first hand experience and knowledge. I’ve never known him to lie or embellish, he doesn’t need to. A year ago I stood shoulder to shoulder with him one night in front of an up and wounded wicked bear, he didn’t flinch and the bear was taken care of, less than 10 feet with a pistol. He’s got sand. He can roll west and in 5-6 days be back with DOZENS of called coyotes. Take it from someone who has spent better than 40 years in the west shooting control work, that’s pretty impressive. Speaking of impressive one guy seems to be coming out on this, two others not so much. Sure is a good cause that would be the real winner, just saying. Osky
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:05 PM
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Number's could be right it doesn't really matter Dave never said all buck deer,i know since 1983 between Mn and living in Mt for 9 years I've killed 225 plus deer.How can a person reach these number's hunting lot of out of states,owning more than 80 acres in Mn pature /ag land give you another doe tag,deperation on soybeans back a few years ago you could shoot 10 per field then if you needed more the DNRwould issue more.For many years I myself was aloud 9 deer 1 buck per season,not counting being a farmers choice shooter for the beans damage one,Mn allows party hunting our party used to be 20 plus hunters,Mt they had A and B tags so you could shoot extra deer/does out there.Between Mt.Mn hunting sport hunting and damaged permit hunting and party hunting there were many years I shot 15 to 20 deer,when the DNR first started the damage deer permits you were not allowed to keep any of the meat,i think it was the 3rd year of the damaged hunting they did allow you to take the meat.So in my 35 years of hunting 11 years in MT. and 35 years in Mn,if I averaged 7 per year that's 245 so 300 plus could be done i'm not sure how many hunting season Dave has under his belt,but i'm guessing it 40 plus so had a 9 deer average that's 360 and if he was part of the DNR REDUCE THE NUMBERS in the soybeans plus a property owner and a few out of states hunt anything is possible.I'm not sure why some sportmans ,hunters,trapper etc have to get in each other facecs so much we love to spend time out in the great outdoors,the anti's are bad enough then as being sportsmens we are fighting about stupid little thing,join together not against each other.Rant over hope this helps about how some number can be meet.
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:10 PM
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Osky, when it comes to big deer the area that Bucks lives in is special.for northwestern MN one has to know the circumstances of the area to appreciate it.
Bucks I saw pictures of an impressive deer shot right at the last days of bow season not too far from you, big typical. Colder than a witches tit when the guy shot it. Same one?
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:11 PM
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Rick the reason why is because if someone can't imagine it, than no one else can do it.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Bucksnbull
[Re: bucksnbears]
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09/27/19 03:15 PM
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Heck Steve, I heard of and seen pics of one last year about 1 1/2 miles away that looked to be that big. I " think" I seen him a few nights before rifle season. Oh , and JByrd, I'd REALLY like you or anyone else the thread about the 200 inch bucks I got on cams LOL it wasn't on cam . Duh how could the guys foot look so long posing with it if it was on cam. I t was a pic. Guess now you want me to find it. LOL wasted enough time proving you are FOS so good luck...... You did say you had killed " pushing 400 to quote you . I'll admit but to call me a liar based on the fact you were bragging about 400 deer dying is ludicrous . I'm done with this . I posted the thread , thanks to someone else finding it. So twist it as you like. . Just sad you are jealous as a proclaimed "TROPHY" hunter. Oh yea where they ALL mature trophies since you proclaim thats all you shoot LOL LOL "pushing 400" mature white tails . Great job oh great whit hunter !!! Bucks nbull crap How many B&C deer you killed? ...... or P&Y
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:15 PM
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Also Osky, I had a guy in central MN tell me a couple years ago they had a lot of deer, I told him he doesn't know what a lot of deer is. Don't get me wrong his area has a healthy population but when he told me he could take me out in an evening and show me 40 50 deer(this was winter) I said I'll show you 300 and not go very far. I don't know what our deer per square mile is but I'm sure on a conservative estimate it's north of 15 and probably over 20. It would be higher but our habitat is turning to black fields.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:17 PM
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Aw geez Osky . Rick, nope, never was part of any culling operation but since party hunting is legal and I hunted with big groups years ago( both gun and bow), I was a shooting S.o.b Sad thing is, I never post #, s to brag., More so, it so people who need help can look to me and know if I say something, it ( probably) comes from experience Looks like JByrd did a Hit n Run Sure is a beauty of a day in the woods!
Last edited by bucksnbears; 09/27/19 03:18 PM.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:24 PM
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Also most on this forum don't know but the country bucks lives in has a very healthy population of wolves and is a steady producer of coyotes. No telling how many deer would be there and the quality if not for them 4 legged predator
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:26 PM
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Also Osky, I had a guy in central MN tell me a couple years ago they had a lot of deer, I told him he doesn't know what a lot of deer is. Don't get me wrong his area has a healthy population but when he told me he could take me out in an evening and show me 40 50 deer(this was winter) I said I'll show you 300 and not go very far. I don't know what our deer per square mile is but I'm sure on a conservative estimate it's north of 15 and probably over 20. It would be higher but our habitat is turning to black fields. Don't doubt there are tons of deer in that area . BUT KILLING THEM LEGAL is the issue. If I could shoot all the deer I see in a season and wanted to buy the shells it would be 50- 60 a year. The head count comes into question when its done by the bag limits. No one would question it if people weren't , what word can I use and not get into trouble.... dinks lol
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Re: Bucksnbull
[Re: bucksnbears]
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09/27/19 03:29 PM
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Aw geez Osky . Rick, nope, never was part of any culling operation but since party hunting is legal and I hunted with big groups years ago( both gun and bow), I was a shooting S.o.b Sad thing is, I never post #, s to brag., More so, it so people who need help can look to me and know if I say something, it ( probably) comes from experience Looks like JByrd did a Hit n Run Sure is a beauty of a day in the woods! Hit and run . Got things to do . Hit the nail on the head with being able to show the post . Just admit it I was right about you bragging . SO IT Wasn't a lie as you so adimitly called me. Oh yes
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Re: Bucksnbull
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09/27/19 03:38 PM
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One last thing buck where did I come up with that number 400? Did I pull it out of the air like you claimed while calling me a liar ? NO it came out of you mouth !
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