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Pipe Dream ? #6633423
10/05/19 04:46 PM
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Curiosity, food, or gland lure?


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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633425
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Just by how it it works. I would think curiosity or gland


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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633439
10/05/19 05:21 PM
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The way I use it is I put food (bait) in the pipe & then I put gland on the backside of the pipe. Works pretty good for me.


Ya can't miss fur if yur traps are out somewhere.
Or so I've been told.
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633450
10/05/19 05:42 PM
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No GLAND! Zagman says during his demo to not use gland lure. All they'll do is pee on it vs. actively tugging/grabbing/moving feet.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633459
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Food.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633495
10/05/19 07:21 PM
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Depended in how your trying to make the set work, if your just hiding the pipe in a large grass clump or somthing for a flat set ( basically the same way you would if you just smeared some lure inside of said clump. Only the pipe is goin to protect your lure better) then it really dosent matter because . But if your using it where the pipe is exposed you want a food lure or a bait their going to want to EAT.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633550
10/05/19 08:25 PM
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There are bunches of pipe dream sets on you tube. There is a lot more to it than just a pipe. Mark makes a lure called pipe dope and I doubt there is a better lure made for use with his set. I haven't tried any gland lures , I try to build the set just like Mark shows it. It is a killer set and having it in my arsenal was worth every penny I spent to gain the knowledge. Coyote U teaches fur put up and just the skinning tips alone is worth the price of admission.


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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633587
10/05/19 09:10 PM
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I like a bait or lure that would be used with an M-44. I look at the pipe more like a grab and die stick than a dirthole or a poke hole.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633695
10/05/19 10:43 PM
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I have not found a single good YouTube video on the pipe dream. The best thing to do is read the 30+ page original post on here, then reread it after you have made 30-40 sets. There are so many details that people miss... it drives me bonkers. Then they go and make a video and label it “THE PIPE DREAM SET” like they are some kind of expert but it’s actually their first time making the set.

So... no gland lure as stated above, just something that taste good.

Think of this set as a baited and blended flat set that is nearly freeze proof. In all actuality the pipe is nothing, it is a weatherproof lure and bait holder that’s invisible when placed how it’s instructed.
it’s all in the bedding, blending and enlarged kill area from the metal screen pan cover.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633747
10/06/19 12:23 AM
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Made two pipe dream sets last year to test them. Used gland lure but had no luck. Switched to food or curiosity lure, can't remember which, and had success. Want to use this set a bit more this coming season and from the comments it seems a bait is what to use. Thanks for the replies.


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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633888
10/06/19 09:20 AM
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Bait is what I use mostly. Late season during the cold and snow I will take a q tip with a smear of (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) fire or fatal breath bend it over double and hang it off the lip of the pipe
I make mine just like Zags my trap pan is about 8 inchs straight back no offset. My only real difference is type of trap I'm running #2 bridger dogless and #2 modified duke round jaw with black nylon window screen. One thing I learned with the window screen I was originally putting it on top of the pan and cut to where it fit inside the jaws with the sprinkle of grass clippings on top. The coons would mess with it and pull the screen off. I now cut a notch in the screen put it under the pan then grass clipping over the top. After doing this I started picking up the coon that messed with them.
One more tip that I do if you have the perfect spot but no weed clump for the pipe to be in. I will drive my pipe in the ground then I take my stake drive and make 3 or 4 hole about a inch away from the base of the pipe. Go get some tall weeds double them over and stuff down your stake hole. It kinda like doing a flower arrangement but it works out really well.
Also Mark has detailed instructions on how he makes his pipe set on his web page. I believe there are to write ups on it
Justin




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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: illinideer] #6633900
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One more tip that I do if you have the perfect spot but no weed clump for the pipe to be in. I will drive my pipe in the ground then I take my stake drive and make 3 or 4 hole about a inch away from the base of the pipe. Go get some tall weeds double them over and stuff down your stake hole. It kinda like doing a flower arrangement but it works out really well.[/quote]


That’s a great tip that I’ve never considered. Do you plant that in a cut corn or bean field or try to keep it in a more natural grass type setting?

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6633926
10/06/19 10:21 AM
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More for the grass settings. Ill just make a little mound of bean and corn stubble for the pipe if my set is in the field. But usuall im on the edge in the grass or in the tractor path to the field




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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6634143
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If ya want em to pee on it use gland, if ya want em to try and eat it use food/curiosity that tastes good, to them anyway. The way Zag beds the trap works very well in grass with root systems. The pipe provides not only a weather resistant lure vestibule but an awesome focal point that has the smell above ground up in the air currents. Win, win.. And ya can take it a way when you pull.. Heres another trick, if you see where a coyote is leery of the pipe, take it away and just leave the hole and see what happens.


Common sense catches alot of fur..
Pay homage to all you harvest..
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6634318
10/06/19 09:00 PM
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Just saying Zagger did a podcast with Clint locklear you can listen to for free and he explains about everything.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6634391
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I’ve driven the pipe right into the base of a corn stalk with big roots and hid it very well . I’ve also pulled and replanted both corn stalks and grass clumps, they come right out in some of my sandy ground.

p.s. Wayne’s 1080 worked good on the pipe .

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6634498
10/07/19 06:40 AM
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I talked to him at the demo. I asked about using it in the woods on logging rds. He said just replace the grass with cut up leaves. Mark said it would work. I remember him saying a food lure.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6634561
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First line, tried the pipe with no backing and had good results. No kidding. Second line, used backings and had good results.

No doubt a food bait set. Used green pipe that blended so well they were hard to find for this color blind trapper.

A sudden early ice storm had the top frozen and put traps out of commission for the night. 6 pipes were nearly chewed shut that night. Give them a bait they want to eat. What does your dog go bananas over? Try it. Betcha it works.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6634595
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Do ya think the set will on Bobcats as well as it does coyotes? We have alot of Bobcats in northern Arkansas.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: bobcat_trapper] #6634703
10/07/19 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bobcat_trapper
Do ya think the set will on Bobcats as well as it does coyotes? We have alot of Bobcats in northern Arkansas.


Yes I caught 4 of my 5 bobcats in pipe dream last year
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