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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6636864
10/10/19 05:06 PM
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A good thing we can dictate that


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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: fishnhunts] #6636876
10/10/19 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fishnhunts
I have an area that I trap that is mostly paved roads(not public) and most of the best locations are in the intersections of these roads. I can't drive a stake because of the gravel they used as a base for the road and have caught several coyotes using a 6-8 foot cable and a mb550. It really was a perfect idea until you catch a bobcat in a state you have to release them and they have 8' of freedom. Lol



If you have to release a bobcat on a long chain throw heavy wood on the chain working your way to the animal. Once you get the chain pinned good you can safely handle it.


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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: The Beav] #6636888
10/10/19 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
….. I'm not going to depend on trees to tie off my sets. I'll use a stake to put my trap where It needs to be not where a tree dictates where I put It.


Beav - We don't have that problem here. No trees = rock! Just messing with ya - couldn't resist! grin

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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6636901
10/10/19 06:04 PM
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Thanks guys I see places that will work.

Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: The Beav] #6636945
10/10/19 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I would hate to think of all the 100s of feet of cable and chain I would have to use to secure traps to trees In my area. And I'm not going to depend on trees to tie off my sets. I'll use a stake to put my trap where It needs to be not where a tree dictates where I put It.


Beav, I get that for sure. The first experience I had that got me thinking about this was the exact opposite. I ended having only about 1/3 of my planned line out as it seemed I was making sets by the end of that day that were dictated entirely by where the ground would let me stake rather than where I wanted to. Plenty of strong trees within easy reach of where I wanted my sets though. Ended up going and snapping all the sets I was able to get set just because they weren’t going to be worth it. Definitely nice to hear what everyone’s areas and preferences have them doing.

Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6636976
10/10/19 07:35 PM
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Another thing, when I used cable I made sure it was as tight as possible, and doubled around the tree/root, boulder, whatever, etc, with the cable going thru a swivel, attached to the chain with extra in line swivels, shock spring etc. I used the cable as a stake to the trap chain.


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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637167
10/10/19 11:22 PM
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Great thread! I wish we had trees lol


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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: Pawnee] #6637174
10/10/19 11:33 PM
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Lol Pawnee. I wish I had some open fields. We have some in parts of the state but the closest thing I get would be a gas or logging road and maybe and old mine area. My areas tend to be paths straight through woods and locating sign is next to impossible unless you can catch some tracks one morning before the snow melts. I tend to find the paths that lead to and from said access roads and go into the woods. I go out those paths and make sets. It seems to be the only way to avoid trap theft and trouble makers shooting catches.

Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637255
10/11/19 06:24 AM
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A guy needs to be adaptable. With cats especially sometimes a tree is the way to go. Rocks can make bedding a trap almost impossible and your not getting a stake in. A longspring solves the bedding problem and tying off to tree might work. Sometimes even with a few trees there its not the right country for a drag. Sometimes I wrap a drag around a tree to big to hook the drag on and tie the chain to a drag prong with wire to secure it. I have used 3/32 cable for tying to trees and never lost a single animal because of it. After a catch or three though that cable is so kinked up its about worthless. Chain lasts for ever. My drags are kept separate from my traps. I hook them together when I use them. Stay adaptable. My trap chains are short with a double stake swivel at the end. Also have a swivel just hanging there I can hook to a drag or whatever else I need to. No single system will work in every situation.

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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637314
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Good information and points Danny. Thanks for the picture

Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637361
10/11/19 09:17 AM
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When I do its like Archeryguys drawing, loosely.
Have one spot that gets 6 dps. All that pounding would draw unwanted attention.
Yep 6, get in, get out, make farmer happy.
As a kid I got chewed out for causing damage to a guys young oak tree, I never forgot that.





Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637365
10/11/19 09:22 AM
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Actually to that point. Has any one ever been concerned about ruining the base of a tree?


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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637369
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Always, lots of no value trees in my area.
Learning tree species is fun too.





Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637370
10/11/19 09:25 AM
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Unless it's something like a young fruit tree, nope.

Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637386
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If I'm doing a nuisance job in someone's yard, I'm going strictly cages or bodygrips if I can. Trees are expensive to replace.

Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: Steelflight] #6637464
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Originally Posted by Steelflight
Actually to that point. Has any one ever been concerned about ruining the base of a tree?


It happens!

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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637468
10/11/19 12:12 PM
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Im like danny tying to trees or bushes is just another tool in the tool bag . Around here you cant afford to let staking conditions dictate your set location .adaptability is key . I like the chestnut rings for double staking because they are so easy to just loop a cable or chain to or if making a set on fresh silty sand that the bottoms are covered with now a couple pogos loop right into them well .they are just so versatile just like another link in the chain .

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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637499
10/11/19 01:26 PM
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If I had no choice I would go to tying to trees.
I've tied off to a fair amount of brush and small trees when beaver trapping with BGs but so far In my 60+ years of running foot holds I haven't had to go that route.


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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: AppalachianTrapr] #6637537
10/11/19 02:32 PM
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Around here you could get by coyote traping with strictly stakes but you are driving by alot of good sets either from rocky ground or visibility from a road. Cat trapping is another story alot of the brushy areas are brushy because of rocks

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Re: Chaining to trees ? [Re: Bigfoot] #6637557
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Bigfoot, I can’t imagine at this point how many good sets I have probably passed up because I have been sticking strictly to stakes. I have chained to trees for coon, just don’t know what I was worried about it with coyotes. I guess somewhere in a shallow mind moment I thought it could be a leverage issue. I’m thinking based off what everyone has said, I’m gonna be carrying some extra chain with a lot of swivels from here on.

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