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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/15/19 12:02 PM
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Larry Baer
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Some of it depends on the country. If you have rocky soil your traps get beat up more. If all you have is rocks your traps get beat up a lot. Plus there is not near the water out west so your traps can last longer because as a rule they do not rust like they do here. There are big coyotes all over. As a rule the westerns are smaller but here in Illinois you and I will get a little of everything from a 21 lb small silky to a 50 lb super dog.
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/15/19 03:33 PM
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wayne52
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Coyotes in the west are true coyotes and are small compared to yous and alot of others. They kill the same
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/16/19 08:30 AM
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bucksnbears
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#2 Victor's are not a good coyote trap anywhere imho.
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/16/19 11:19 AM
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to easy to bend the baseplate and pop the jaws out.greatest mink and rat trap ever to some though-me included.
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/16/19 11:51 AM
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watched a big bobble cat rock back and heard a "pink".cat just walked off like nothing happened.was before we had cat seasons so it was a good learning lesson at no cost.
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/17/19 05:59 AM
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danny clifton
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I agree #2 victor ls is not a good choice for coyotes. having said that though about 40 years ago I had some bobcat sets made with them. I was still living in Colorado. my go to in fact my only bobcat set was to hang a rabbit about four feet off the ground and bed a trap under it. a fence of brush and cactus on each side of the trap with some urine on one side. lion stepped on one of those 2's. was tied off on the exposed root of some oak brush. root broke stead of the trap. put dogs on that cat next morning. great big tom. trap was still on the outside two toe pads. I have no doubt if that root had held the trap would have come apart. but it didn't. and that trap stayed on that cat. it was only 3-4 miles from where it got caught when those dogs bayed it up.
I have held bobcats in them. I also only use them now on drowners for coon. those long springs stabilize the trap in gravel or mud. on drowners. not dryland.
I still use longspring victors at times cause of the way they bed for coyotes and cats but only 3's and 4's now. in wy where snow can be a problem I use 5's cause they are a bit taller and reach up through snow better.
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: bucksnbears]
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10/18/19 12:57 PM
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grumley701
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#2 Victor's are not a good coyote trap anywhere imho. They make an excellent mink and muskrat trap...
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/19/19 08:07 AM
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trappergbus
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Coyotes east or west have an innate ability to detect weakness with their jaws. If it bends when they crunch down the keep working on the weak point until it fails.. As far as trap retention is concerned the only difference is Eastern yotes average 5-7 pounds heavier over all.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/19/19 12:21 PM
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often amazed at the teeth marks they leave in steel.also,to watch one use leverage to pump a stake is another mind number.
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Re: Eastern vs. Western coyote fight
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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10/20/19 10:02 AM
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trappergbus
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What has always amazed me is they have very little tooth damage. Tough buggers for sure, east or west. We can all thank the coyote for the great traps we have today.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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