What are most doing with Triggers Positions for Fisher (ie Conibear sets - Boxes or Cubbies ?

Pans ?

Original Trigger ? ( Do you leave in a V or another position ?


Thanks in Advance

Minks

I don't specifically set for fisher,but do catch some incidentals in marten boxes.
I like the trigger wires hanging from the top in a slight v shape.I use LDL traps mostly so don't have to worry about the dog doing damage on the pelt(double jaw)
If I was using a singlejaw trap,I would have the trigger and dog on the bottom,also in a v shape.
I also use vertical boxes.When set with the opening up,I use the v trigger also,but when set with the opening down I use the L shaped trigger,with the crosser towards the tree trunk.

Here is a bodygrip bmp for fisher.

When using wire triggers on body grip trap triggers I prefer they should be standing up from the bottom in a V position, with the general exception being diving water sets. I don't think animals like ducking under something any more than I do, but will push through small twigs or grass. Also trigger may occasionally hang up on a jaw, and not completely close, when you have the trap set with the trigger hanging down from the upper jaw. In this situation, when the trap is sprung and closing the trigger falls towards the opposed closing jaw. Whereas if set on a bottom/ground jaw the trigger falls away from the opposed closing jaw and cannot hang up on the trigger.

Another point of consideration is that a trap set close to the bait is much more productive in producing consistent humane strikes, in a box or cubby. This occurs because the animal is stable at the bait and not moving through the trap to get to the bait when the trap is triggered.

Thanks Guys


Do most prefer for your conibear - triggers or pans for fishers ?


Thanks again

Bctomcat, Are you sure a trigger catching a jaw is a top or bottom thing? I am quite sure its caused by the direction the trigger is pushed when the critter sets off the trap, and to a lesser extent the speed of the critter moving and the amount of play int he trigger. The theory is this:

When an animal approaches the trap with the trigger on the side nearest to the animal, it folds the trigger into the trap further, and when the jaw begins moving forward, the trigger follows behind the moving jaw.

If the trigger is on the side of the trap away from the animals approach, the trigger gets pushed out of the trap, and when the trap fires inertia doesn't have time to position the trigger behind the moving trap jaw for a strike. If your trigger wires are at all splayed forward and back, this traps the bar between the two trigger wires further increasing the possibility of a caught trigger. Doesn't happen all the time, but a splayed apart trigger increases the odds of it.

In a blind set, you cant dictate which way an animal goes through a conibear. When in a box, I always put the trap in trigger side out. At worst, it prevents a miss, and at best prevents trigger damage.

Can be tougher to visualize, but I can prove with a video that trigger away from approach is to be avoided for the reason above if a all possible.

It is a top setting problem with splayed trigger wires creating a greater chance of it happening in my experience. The following depicts the action of a trap closing in both the top and bottom settings. With a bottom setting the trigger wires are always falling away from closing jaws rather than towards them with a top setting.

Never tried baited buckets but have a question. For the most humane catch trigger down, slightly bent toward the entrance with trigger baited? Thanks

NO! Trap placed close to the bait so the animal is stable at the bait, with its head well between the jaws, and sets it off with its feet, head movements between the wires or whatever while working the bait.

Got it. Again thanks

Exactly as pictured, however a trigger perfectly vertical when the trap fires means the trigger will rotate enough if dry fired to get out of the way. I believe strongly that it needs to be pushed past vertical by a critter to make it happen, and only from one direction.

Edit: But I been wrong before!

I agree with hutchy although it is not as much of an issue with the trigger on the bottom.
The exception is the LDL magnum trap which is double jawed.It is a one way trap.No matter up or down,if it is not set with the trigger being pushed into the trap,you will get broken triggers.It will not prevent a catch however because of the strength of the springs.

Good Info guys

Thanks to all who commented

Minks

Pans. Wood pans.

YES pans are the best when set close to the bait where the animal is stable at the trap with its head between the jaws working the bait when the trap is fired.
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bc. Your fisher keep heading this way. Out-competing my marten, I fear.

Wood pans or Circle triggers