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 #6652926 10/30/19 09:26 AM
10/30/19 09:26 AM
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Anyone use this set for foxes?  How would you adjust this set back distance from the pipe for the smaller animal?  Don't have many coyotes in my area yet and there have only been four killed or trapped in the past six years or so.  I know a guy that caught over 300 reds last year on pipes.......and yes, I'd say you probably would be a little closer to the pipe if no coyotes. Screen color?  I like black.....because I put such little cover on the screen.....and some of the black shows through but blends in better, I think, than silver.  That said.....if that's all you have use it! MZThanks Zagman.  A lot of rain her usually so this should help some with that. |  |  |  
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 #6654902 11/01/19 04:43 PM
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/11/full-44458-21911-img_20191101_111523.jpg) Another pipe dream victim. This girl was out in the snow last night and found a pipe dream set I made 15 days ago. The weather has been wet and nasty. I had not touched this set at all from day one. We got a little snow overnight like a lot of you did.
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 Wish I had more time to trap....
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 #6655239 11/02/19 02:33 AM
11/02/19 02:33 AM
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I made 4 pipe dream sets 10-days ago on some grassy waterways where I’ve taken coyotes in the past. I’m using John Graham lures designed for the old M-44 grab and pull set up.  Two were MB550s with grey aluminum screen and two were Montana #3 with black screen I got from Marty Smith-Keg Creek Lures. In a couple nights I took 3 reds and had one pull out. 
 With smaller (bamboo) pipes I’ve seem where the tops have been extremely chewed. Grey conduit holds up better. I’m using bait with the conduits and have taken coyotes and coon with it.
 
 We had 2-inches of rain just before I set. And 1/2 inch after I set. I’m not a fan of bringing in dry dirt but bringing a small bag of dry grass is easy. This set (finally) connected for me and I’ll use it heavily in the future too
 
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[Re: strike2x]
 #6655286 11/02/19 07:29 AM
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/11/full-44458-21911-img_20191101_111523.jpg) Another pipe dream victim. This girl was out in the snow last night and found a pipe dream set I made 15 days ago. The weather has been wet and nasty. I had not touched this set at all from day one. We got a little snow overnight like a lot of you did.You gotta love Marks bedding system. I had one that set in for about the same time as you rain snow freeze thaw repeat that connected. I even bed some of my 1 1/2 dukes for coon this way using my 3 inch auger for the hole. Goes real quick J 
 
 
 Coyote 3
 Coons 24
 Bobcats 1 Released
 Grinners All of them
 USN AE2 VF-31 Tomcatters
 Retired SMSGT IL ANG 183 Fighter Wing
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 #6655315 11/02/19 08:25 AM
11/02/19 08:25 AM
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Zagman is a thinker and that's why he nails coyote after coyote on their terms where they choose to live.  He can catch them in his home state, your home state or my home state. Why? Because he understands the doggies, what they want, and when they want it.  I've used the pipe dream set and it's fun.  Real fun sometimes when the traditional sets are blown over with snow and a yote is dancing in a circle of mud, and ice with a piece of pipe nearby!  
 I just got a call asking me to come a try to catch a coyote on a fenced ranch here NW of Houston that's killed > $100,000 of exotics in the last two years.  7 trappers have come and tried "everything" they told me.  Everything.  It's a male they tell me.  Nobody can trap, snare, shoot, call, dog chase "him" they tell me.  For two years they've tried all they can do, and still about once a week, they find a dead or injured critter that Mr. Coyote has worked over hard.
 
 Now it'll be my turn come mid-November.
 I gave them a hefty daily fee I charge.  They gulped and said "OK, we just need you to catch this thing!!"
 I think I'll bring some piping and a bit of Widowmaker paste bait.
 
 Zag, wish me luck on this dog pressured for two years by government and private trappers, helicopters, dog guys, and night vision callers!  Go pipe dream go.
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 #6655430 11/02/19 11:59 AM
11/02/19 11:59 AM
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Zagman is a thinker and that's why he nails coyote after coyote on their terms where they choose to live.  He can catch them in his home state, your home state or my home state. Why? Because he understands the doggies, what they want, and when they want it.  I've used the pipe dream set and it's fun.  Real fun sometimes when the traditional sets are blown over with snow and a yote is dancing in a circle of mud, and ice with a piece of pipe nearby!  
 I just got a call asking me to come a try to catch a coyote on a fenced ranch here NW of Houston that's killed > $100,000 of exotics in the last two years.  7 trappers have come and tried "everything" they told me.  Everything.  It's a male they tell me.  Nobody can trap, snare, shoot, call, dog chase "him" they tell me.  For two years they've tried all they can do, and still about once a week, they find a dead or injured critter that Mr. Coyote has worked over hard.
 
 Now it'll be my turn come mid-November.
 I gave them a hefty daily fee I charge.  They gulped and said "OK, we just need you to catch this thing!!"
 I think I'll bring some piping and a bit of Widowmaker paste bait.
 I'd use Johnson's Lucky but the ground rats here are too hard on their cousin (it's made with fresh beaver meat) and find it in 10 seconds.
 
 Zag, wish me luck on this dog pressured for two years by government and private trappers, helicopters, dog guys, and night vision callers!  Go pipe dream go.
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Zagman is a thinker and that's why he nails coyote after coyote on their terms where they choose to live.  He can catch them in his home state, your home state or my home state. Why? Because he understands the doggies, what they want, and when they want it.  I've used the pipe dream set and it's fun.  Real fun sometimes when the traditional sets are blown over with snow and a yote is dancing in a circle of mud, and ice with a piece of pipe nearby!  
 I just got a call asking me to come a try to catch a coyote on a fenced ranch here NW of Houston that's killed > $100,000 of exotics in the last two years.  7 trappers have come and tried "everything" they told me.  Everything.  It's a male they tell me.  Nobody can trap, snare, shoot, call, dog chase "him" they tell me.  For two years they've tried all they can do, and still about once a week, they find a dead or injured critter that Mr. Coyote has worked over hard.
 
 Now it'll be my turn come mid-November.
 I gave them a hefty daily fee I charge.  They gulped and said "OK, we just need you to catch this thing!!"
 I think I'll bring some piping and a bit of Widowmaker paste bait.
 I'd use Johnson's Lucky but the ground rats here are too hard on their cousin (it's made with fresh beaver meat) and find it in 10 seconds.
 
 Zag, wish me luck on this dog pressured for two years by government and private trappers, helicopters, dog guys, and night vision callers!  Go pipe dream go.
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 #6655736 11/02/19 08:33 PM
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I will indeed.  And if Zagman's pipe dream does the deal rather than another set... I'll skin his coyotes for a year!Not.
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 #6656116 11/03/19 09:48 AM
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I will indeed.  And if Zagman's pipe dream does the deal rather than another set... I'll skin his coyotes for a year!Not.
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[Re: Owen156]
 #6676550 11/26/19 11:47 PM
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Zagman is a thinker and that's why he nails coyote after coyote on their terms where they choose to live.  He can catch them in his home state, your home state or my home state. Why? Because he understands the doggies, what they want, and when they want it.  I've used the pipe dream set and it's fun.  Real fun sometimes when the traditional sets are blown over with snow and a yote is dancing in a circle of mud, and ice with a piece of pipe nearby!  
 I just got a call asking me to come a try to catch a coyote on a fenced ranch here NW of Houston that's killed > $100,000 of exotics in the last two years.  7 trappers have come and tried "everything" they told me.  Everything.  It's a male they tell me.  Nobody can trap, snare, shoot, call, dog chase "him" they tell me.  For two years they've tried all they can do, and still about once a week, they find a dead or injured critter that Mr. Coyote has worked over hard.
 
 Now it'll be my turn come mid-November.
 I gave them a hefty daily fee I charge.  They gulped and said "OK, we just need you to catch this thing!!"
 I think I'll bring some piping and a bit of Widowmaker paste bait.
 I'd use Johnson's Lucky but the ground rats here are too hard on their cousin (it's made with fresh beaver meat) and find it in 10 seconds.
 
 Zag, wish me luck on this dog pressured for two years by government and private trappers, helicopters, dog guys, and night vision callers!  Go pipe dream go.
That will be quite a challenge.  That dog has a masters degree in survival, please let us know how it goes.Well, day 7 has lapsed and only two bobcats for the week thus far.  Mr. Coyote is proving to be a Boone & Crockett.  He's not moving much at all so far, here inside the 600 or so high fenced acres.  Between myself and the hired hand, we've only cut a couple tracks twice.  Ouch.  No turds either as the buzzards eat them and the dung beetles are still out in force.  But I'm a patient trapper and an optimist!  I did learn trapper #7 has been coming out every two weeks for some months, setting traps and then the hired man checks them.  The trapper resets each time he comes.  Currently there are numerous traps laying snapped and visible here and there on the ranch.   I set a few more set today, real sneaky like, and we'll see what tomorrow brings. So far, Zagman still has to skin his own yotes. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/11/full-50422-25228-hueske_bobcat.jpg) |  |  |  
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 #6676557 11/26/19 11:55 PM
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So with the pipe dream bedding system is there any dirt under the jaws at all? 
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[Re: DarkNight]
 #6676870 11/27/19 11:22 AM
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So with the pipe dream bedding system is there any dirt under the jaws at all?Just on the very edges to support the jaws and levers you will have the big hole under the middle of the trap . I use #2 duke and dogless bridgers I dig a hole about 5x5x5  then take my hammer and tap down the edges for the jaws and lever so the trap will be just a little below ground level. If there is any wobble I'll tap around the outside edge to pinch the dirt in just a little on the trap.   Go to Zags Coyote U site he has his write up on the pipe dream that will explain way better then me J 
 
 
 Coyote 3
 Coons 24
 Bobcats 1 Released
 Grinners All of them
 USN AE2 VF-31 Tomcatters
 Retired SMSGT IL ANG 183 Fighter Wing
 Coyote U Class #4
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 #6687574 12/08/19 10:55 PM
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Has anybody tried different color pipe?  Blue orange red white grey? 
 Ya can't miss fur if yur traps are out somewhere.
 Or so I've been told.
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 #6687586 12/08/19 11:20 PM
12/08/19 11:20 PM
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I tried some folded over aluminium screen today.  Used a cutout of 1/2 inch plywood to form it.  Not happy at all.  I got to get the screen figured out.  Was not sitting well at all on my MB 650. 
 When things are Grim, become the Grim Reaper!
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