The police/military state destroys a home "apprehending a suspect" and the homeowner is SOL.

40mm grenades? Overkill?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado...er-nothing-after-swat-destroys-his-house

That just doesn’t seem right at all If that’s how it’s going to work. I should have the option to remove the perp from my house in a way I see fit to do it

It's what happens when police are "militarized" then attempt to look and act like an occupying army instead of law enforcement.
They are civil servants - NOT the military - so why do they "need" grenade launchers, armored vehicles and automatic weapons?
Wonder why the public doesn't trust them - could it be almost complete immunity from irresponsible behavior.
IMHO - SWAT is a farce.
I do support LE - but NOT on this level.

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When my nephew got swatted for being despondent and suicidal. They threw one them flash bangs in attached garage window. Blew a quart of that stinking gear lube all over every thing. Good thing wasn't a gas can or probably would burned him out.. The amoured truck they drove up when knocked front door in broke the drive way concrete and the side walk... Never got a penny to fix that mess.. When nephew finally walked out holding the dog by collar, which had freaked out from flash bangs and gas.. They shot the crap out of nephew with bean bag rounds because he would let the dog run loose and lay down on ground. What I didn't understand was what happened to talking someone out. They just got tired of trying to talk to him so gassed the place...If some one would called me I'm sure I could have walked house and walked him out..I was trying to help him at the time so we had kind of a trust thing going..I found out on morning news.

I get not screwing around with some people get it done.. But some times I think them guys escalate things instead of de-escalating them.. And don't get me wrong I have family and friends working in law enforcement..I'm way far from a cop brasher..but still get disappointed sometimes..

Mac

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I have seen first hand an out of control assault team. Before that day I was very pro law enforcement. Now I believe they need reined in.

The use of the term assault is accurate by the way. The weapons gear and tactics were all taken from an army basic squad combat tactics manual.

There is almost no holding them to account for irresponsible behavior. The name of the cop who killed an unarmed homeowner, inside his home, who had broken no laws, is being with held. He is going to be compensated for unpaid time off while the cover up was done. This all took place in Wichita awhile back and is called swatting now. The guy who called is in prison but not the trigger happy cop. He is still a cop.

Your neighbor calls you and says your daughter is being raped by another neighbor, you better get over there, so you kick in the door and kill the guy. Then find out the caller was jealous and the sex consensual, think you as a civilian would go to prison? I want to know why LE gets a pass.

Here in Crime Bluff Arkansas our SWAT team killed a hundred year old man who was barricaded in his room. Made a lot of folks very mad down here. While I do support our Leo's sometime they go too far. All they had to do was leave him alone for a few hours and he would of fell asleep.

The way it works is you shoot at LE its game on and the rule book does not say they have to take a bullet to stop the action. As far as the guys house replacement he had the wrong insurance and the news article does not give all the facts or maybe just wants to sensationalize it that happens a lot these days. Maybe he needs to take the insurance company to court, or maybe that is all he had his house insured for. A lot of folks never read there policy and then whine about the issue after the fact. My sister put in a claim and whined because she had $1000 deductible to save money and put in a claim for under $800. The solution, she dropped the carrier and got another policy with the same deductible, oh well. Maybe the owner of the house can make a claim against the shoplifter and get what he has in assets. Bottom line is the news paper is basically giving a brief of the subject to sell papers, thats all.

Wonder how much a rider on my homeowner's insurance to cover damage by LE would cost?

Hard to say it is all based on statistics the way they charge. My best guess is that something like that happens very seldom and they would be happy to take the bet. The look at how often an event occurs and what they pay vs how much they are taking in for premiums. Its all a gamble, I know a person that owns outright his home, and chooses not to insure it, so far its paid. I never like paying the premiums and only had two claims on my home. One was hail damage and I had T lock shingles they paid for almost the whole roofing job because they no longer make T locks and it could not be repaired to match. The other claim was $138,000 on some minor fire damage mostly smoke. Bottom line is glad I had the insurance and Im ahead of the game.

Says something about today's governmental agencies if I have to consider getting insurance to cover their actions against my property (through no fault of mine).

I have to agree with K Snow. I have always supported LE and still do, but they seem to be getting out of hand, Shooting a armed or unarmed person 21 time is uncalled for. If I would shoot a intruder in my home 21 time I would be hung. Even if they were armed.

Wait until the Democrats are in control, most LE will be willing partners in seizing your ARs and AKs.

At least in Iraq the homeowners would get a stack of cash right away to cover their loss.

Also....about supportimg LE, I agree. I support the men and women that are trying. It seems that the system and training is broken though.

They also got to keep one ak47 per adult male in the house. That is a fully automatic rifle, not the civilian wanna be ak's we have here.

K snow do you know for sure that the insurance company did not pay him as described in his policy??? Maybe your policy would cover you but they are only going to pay what they are supposed to. If your not insured for your $500 thousand dollar house they are not going to pay you anymore than what you have covered. Read your policy most policies will only cover up to a certain amount for guns and Jewelry an electronic equipment. On my policy its $5000. If I have $10000 in guns stolen, they are paying me $5000 max. As far as LE being out of control the article stated that there was a 19 HOUR fire fight going on. So how long do you let that happen?? are you going in with a guy like that? If someone not involved was shot because the cops didn't stop it, then there not doing there job. Im not saying everything LE does is justified but don't put them all in the same basket. I know some trappers that should be arrested, fined and never be able to trap again because of there actions. Does that mean all trappers are bad? Seems like there are a lot of folks that take a bad apple and throw all the other apples into the same trash barrel.

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