Re: Peat users up North
[Re: SkyeDancer]
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11/12/19 10:57 AM
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I opened my peat bag I bought last year and it has a strong organic, well, peat smell. So here comes the dumb question.... will that odor cause coyotes to shy away or traps to get dug up? I'm trying to minimize my waxed sand from going under the trap pan. Should peat be odorless?
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/12/19 11:40 AM
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Open up the bale so it dries. Wet PM absorbs while dry repels water.
If you wax your screen covers it will help from sifting through.
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/12/19 12:13 PM
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I've been mixing in glycerin lately. Really haven't put it to the test yet, but supposed to be in the teens this week, so we will see.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/12/19 12:24 PM
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The odor from a handful of peat should be negligible. If concerned, lay some out on a towel or waxed paper on your deck, garage, or some other covered place and let it air out a few hours.
I trapped a nuisance fox a couple years ago in hard frozen ground. Used peat below, above and all around the trap. I also sprayed everything with a 50/50 mix of glycol and water. The air temps were around 0 but I got him.
Never too old to learn
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/12/19 11:26 PM
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DarkNight
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Thanks for the help. Good luck to you all!
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/13/19 06:38 AM
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I've caught them here on about every kind of bedding you can think of. Peat moss, buckwheat hulls, dry salted dirt, waxed dirt, dried cow manure, chopped hay, and for many years I bought bags of various hull type mulch from menards like cocoa bean hulls, coffee bean hulls, and even finely chopped cedar and Cyprus mulch. Cocoa beans smell like chocolate...but didnt seem to phase coyotes. Neither did coffee beans, mulch, or peat. They all work just fine. Our winters get super cold here and freeze/thaw is an issue 99% of the season so I have to buy it well ahead if time like in spring or so and completely dry the bale out in my garage all summer and fall. Peat takes me a long time to get it bone dry even in a hot garage all summer. That's stirring it daily too. Otherwise the stuff I was buying would freeze up like a rock if there was any moisture in it whatsoever. Completely dried peat is almost powdery fine, light, hard to bed solidly in and works for a few frosty nights here but eventually it too crusts over and I have to maintain sets with fresh dry stuff or else am dancing on sets myself to try to fire them. I've gone to using well waxed and sifted dirt for bedding and then using peat or finely chopped straw for blending. So far it's been my best freeze proof and longest lasting combination I can put at a set and still have any confidence it will fire after a few days of freeze/thaw night and day after day in late december work. Jim
Last edited by jabNE; 11/13/19 06:41 AM.
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/13/19 07:35 PM
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bleeohio
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I use peat straight up a lot here, regardless of what set I'm making, flat, dirthole, rock, I spread a little around the whole set so that it's not concentrated in one little spot.
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Re: Peat users up North
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11/14/19 11:06 AM
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I use peat straight up a lot here, regardless of what set I'm making, flat, dirthole, rock, I spread a little around the whole set so that it's not concentrated in one little spot. Do you have any problems getting the trap to bed solid doing this? I am only targeting bobcat, as I drew a tag for one this year in Wisconsin. Are cats less finicky about solid beds, than say coyotes? I've heard coyotes won't tollerate it, but I'm only targeting bobcats, and have been wondering if it's just as important to get a great solid set for cats.
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/14/19 12:00 PM
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A solid trap bed is a solid trap bed but the good thing about Bobcats a covered trap is not need . Most time I just break up the outline of the trap.
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Re: Peat users up North
[Re: Motley Row]
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11/15/19 12:58 AM
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If you need moss in a pinch in the winter you could buy sphagnum moss. It comes bone-dry from Mosser Lee.
Last edited by AJE; 11/15/19 12:58 AM.
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