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Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6660881
11/09/19 12:59 AM
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Well kinda joking around...but seriously this is argued all the time. Let me ask you this. What would happen, if nothing else changed ie jetting, intake, exhaust...and you added way more oil or way more gas? The answer although one of the two would happen is not foul a plug or seize the engine. Air/lots of oil/little bit o gas and air/little bit of oil/lots of gas what would you call these?
I hesitate to argue this. But let me say it one more way. Air stays the same but you mixed half gas and oil what would this do to your air/fuel ratio? Remember you just displaced a whole lotta fuel with oil.

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6660885
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Either way I’ll admit I’m way past the topic. I just wanted to hear more about why we should delete the injection system and I do concur. The injection system scares me.

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6660893
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Also want to say thanks for posting. I’m about to buy a tundra 2 and had pondered this myself. Hope this assures that I am not arguing to be a jerk.

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6660897
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Had a Single cyl Bravo then a single cyl. old Tundra both seize up from oilers that failed. I always noticed the Tundras when functioning normal used significantly less oil - for what that's worth. All that made me run a number of 340 Polaris machines on the oiler and a gas/oil mixture of 75/1 (in other words almost twice the oil the dealers recommend. I would change plugs once a season and things smoked more when starting up as one might expect. Every dealer I talked to said I'd burn up the engine from a leaned out mixture from too much oil. That made no sense to me. I got two 340 machines in my junk yard with a little under 30,000 and another over 30,000 and never been rebuilt but are now burnt up. Some day I want to put those speedometers on my shop wall. I run the heavy oil in every machine since including my current VK 540 Yamaha. If the oiler goes I got enough oil to take care of the engine till I notice the problem of not using any oil. I think I get more miles out of an engine and don't buy expensive oil either. Stan

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: ] #6660907
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Originally Posted by Wylee
Also want to say thanks for posting. I’m about to buy a tundra 2 and had pondered this myself. Hope this assures that I am not arguing to be a jerk.


I wouldn't buy one.


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Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6660909
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Dirt what would you buy? I just picked up a freestyle but it’s going to wind up being the wife’s sled.

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6662918
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Dirt loves his Bravo's!!!!

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6663513
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If the problem is a weak plastic gear on the Tundra oil pump, why hasn't someone machined a metal one for the aftermarket?


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Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6663651
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Just pull the oiler off, if it doesn't fall off on its own like mine used to. Murphy is the main reason.

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Now it won't be in the way every time you have to

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put one of these in
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It will be easier to reach your through bolts you had to replace the original fine thread bolts that strip out the aluminum.


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These should wallow out your first year

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These plastic upper idlers will constantly jam up with overflow and get flat spots

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and cause your track to blister if you don't constantly bust the ice out of them

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The driven clutch spring will eat into the aluminum helix and break off you slider

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Don't let it idle too much or the vibration cause damage.

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Grease the front posts so this takes a while to occur.


That is a partial list of issues the pre 2000 or so tundra II had. I think Marty covered a fair list in his ATA article too.


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Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6663920
11/12/19 06:14 PM
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I've owned multiple tundras and ran them hard in cold weather and have never had an injection system fail and my machines have a lot of miles on them. Not saying they don't give up but I think its rare. Injection systems save you a lot of money in oil as well, don't use nearly as much as when mixing.

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6663923
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Wow. So what are some opinions on the best trapping/work sled?

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6665327
11/14/19 12:59 AM
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The best one is the one of which you've already got many carcasses for parts.


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Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: waggler] #6665343
11/14/19 01:25 AM
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Lol no carcasses here yet.. but I’m not against collecting.

Re: Ski Doo Tundra question [Re: Aknative] #6665733
11/14/19 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Aknative
The best one is the one of which you've already got many carcasses for parts.


Amen AKNative - that is invaluable if you work on your machines. Got 2 other junkers for my present main one and about 5 for my secondary one.

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