Plane crash today in Chamberlain why they took off in this weather is beyond me. 9 dead 3 alive reported, it's been storming all day.

That’s horrible news sorry to hear that

Very Sad, will be interesting to hear why they decided to fly in such bad weather.

Darn, sure hope my friend Anthony wasn't on the plane

ID hunters

Very Sad Deal

I'm chicken, don't want to fly any more, been 30 years

Shouldn't even be on the highway's today.

local family here in Idaho Falls, owned gas stations, a fuel distributorship and a nutritional supplement business.this is the second plane crash in a week to take locals.

Got called out to preserve the scene tonight sitting here rocking with the wind howling.

Sad situation indeed. 9 members of a family from Idaho died in the crash. Somehow 3 members of the family survived.

Too heavy ? Ice ? Disoriented pilot ? Fuel ?

https://www.argusleader.com/story/n...-jim-kirk-hansen-idaho-falls/4347845002/

The weather didn't look too bad with the exception (a big exception) of "low level wind shear", I guessing wind shear was the problem since the crash occurred only about one mile from the airport.
The Pilatus C-12 is quite an airplane.

"Get home-itis" kills a lot of people.

One of the young fathers that died was in dental school with my son. Always feels more tragic when you know one of the victims.

I think that overweight could very well be the case.

The empty weight of the plane is 6195.

Max weight with zero fuel is 9039

9039 - 6195 = 2844 pounds

Figure 12 people & their gear =2400 pounds

You now have 444 pounds left for fuel at 6.3 pounds per gallon. That is only 70 gallons. The plane will hold 420 gallons.

That airplane burns 66 gallons per hour.

I doubt they would have only taken on one hour's fuel load to return to Idaho.


Add some icing on takeoff and I can easily see a stall . BUT this is one heck of an airplane. Certified for flight into known icing conditions with deicing equipment in the wings, empannage, propellers . ...........provided it is turned on.

The plane also includes stall prevention sort of like the 737 Max except it has two sensors instead of just one.

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Did you notice the weather reported "low level wind shear"? A mile from the airport, plane wouldn't have gained much elevation, hit wind shear, bad news.
I don't know a whole lot about flying, but could that plane build up a significant amount of ice in just a matter of seconds?

I was on a Mark Air commercial flight 20 some years ago out of Juneau that hit wind shear on the climb shortly after take off; terrifying. The NTSB called me as well as other passengers after the incident (pilots weren't talking). People got really religious really fast that day.

No.I doubt it would accumulate that quickly. If it was that bad he would have known prior to take off.

Wind shear absolutely, especially if he was over gross take off weight If they hit a mile off the runway, they probably weren't much over 500' when they hit the wind shear.

I just measured the Chamberlain airport runway on Google Earth, approximately 8,600 feet. Its on "top" of the river hill. If a plane was heading west or northwest it would have had only a couple miles before over the river breaks and the reservoir itself but it doesn't sound like the plane even made it that far so it would have still been over flat ground.

Law Dog- How far from the I-90 rest stop and Serenity statue did it crash...?

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It crashed in a flat corn field about one mile from the airport. The pictures look like it was a catastrophic crash, I don't know how anyone survived. It doesn't look at all like the pilot was attempting a "crash landing". Most likely a stall event due to some factor is my guess.

I can't comment now that I'm working the site the fact it's about a mile from the airport.