Plane crash today.
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11/30/19 09:28 PM
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Plane crash today in Chamberlain why they took off in this weather is beyond me. 9 dead 3 alive reported, it's been storming all day.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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12/01/19 05:01 AM
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Got called out to preserve the scene tonight sitting here rocking with the wind howling.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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12/03/19 03:45 PM
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Sad situation indeed. 9 members of a family from Idaho died in the crash. Somehow 3 members of the family survived.
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12/03/19 04:36 PM
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Too heavy ? Ice ? Disoriented pilot ? Fuel ? NTSB investigators got held up by the weather, so the investigation is just starting. The only thing I have heard is some idiotic speculation about 12 passengers on a 10 passenger plane. The folks speculating about that are not smart enough to figure two 70 pound kids do not equal a 200 pound man. Sad days for the family and community no matter what. I think that overweight could very well be the case. The empty weight of the plane is 6195. Max weight with zero fuel is 9039 9039 - 6195 = 2844 pounds Figure 12 people & their gear =2400 pounds You now have 444 pounds left for fuel at 6.3 pounds per gallon. That is only 70 gallons. The plane will hold 420 gallons. That airplane burns 66 gallons per hour. I doubt they would have only taken on one hour's fuel load to return to Idaho. Add some icing on takeoff and I can easily see a stall . BUT this is one heck of an airplane. Certified for flight into known icing conditions with deicing equipment in the wings, empannage, propellers . ...........provided it is turned on. The plane also includes stall prevention sort of like the 737 Max except it has two sensors instead of just one.
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12/03/19 05:30 PM
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^^^^^^ Did you notice the weather reported "low level wind shear"? A mile from the airport, plane wouldn't have gained much elevation, hit wind shear, bad news. I don't know a whole lot about flying, but could that plane build up a significant amount of ice in just a matter of seconds?
I was on a Mark Air commercial flight 20 some years ago out of Juneau that hit wind shear on the climb shortly after take off; terrifying. The NTSB called me as well as other passengers after the incident (pilots weren't talking). People got really religious really fast that day.
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12/03/19 07:03 PM
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I just measured the Chamberlain airport runway on Google Earth, approximately 8,600 feet. Its on "top" of the river hill. If a plane was heading west or northwest it would have had only a couple miles before over the river breaks and the reservoir itself but it doesn't sound like the plane even made it that far so it would have still been over flat ground.
Law Dog- How far from the I-90 rest stop and Serenity statue did it crash...?
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12/03/19 07:33 PM
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^^^^^^ It crashed in a flat corn field about one mile from the airport. The pictures look like it was a catastrophic crash, I don't know how anyone survived. It doesn't look at all like the pilot was attempting a "crash landing". Most likely a stall event due to some factor is my guess.
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12/03/19 08:08 PM
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I can't comment now that I'm working the site the fact it's about a mile from the airport.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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