Mine are 2-coiled.

I had the same experiences with the TS 85's as Kirk De and ADC.I bought a half dozen to try them once and had far too many sprung and empty traps in the beds and down the drowners. Certainly not acceptable for getting the last one on damage jobs. I sold them and kept using the MB 750's and never looked back. They may not be the perfect trap but I do not ever find them sprung and empty. If they are not seen in their bed, they are down the drowner with something in them every time. I might some day try the no BS trap.

Say I caught a 35 pound beaver this morning as I set the trap yesterday. Wiebke said about $10.00 or $12.00 rough or skinned. Cleaned skin takes an hour, rough skinned about half hour. This beaver is not going to make a blanket as that takes a 40 pounder. What you getting in the rough?

I never 4 coiled any of mine.2 coil is plenty

I have never had problem's with T85's.At least I can set them with my bare hands. I run 4 lbs pan tension.

All the bad experiences I read about the ts85. I second guessing that trap. Have to put bridger #5 back in race. No bs , Montana #5 and bridger #5. I like the dogless ones the best.