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P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany #6691806
12/13/19 05:39 AM
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Some pretty cool footage if you're into that kind of thing and have the time.




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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6691937
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Cool video, thanks for sharing.

Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6691938
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Awesome video. I love seeing those old war films.

Lot of young men in there and they got it done.

Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6691965
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Looked like some of them "jugs" guns didn't hold the best groups, but they seemed to work!
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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: iaduckhntr] #6691969
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Originally Posted by iaduckhntr
Looked like some of them "jugs" guns didn't hold the best groups, but they seemed to work!
Dennis


You throw that many 50 cal rounds at something, groups don't matter too much

Reminds me of a bumper sticker on a customer's truck "USMC Machine Gunner: Accuracy by Volume"

Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6692055
12/13/19 12:02 PM
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My dad lflew a p47 and i believe 48 and 49 too? Got shot down in burma in enemy territory and made it out. I have one of his 50 cal cartriges

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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6692133
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Nice video Finster.

The thing that sticks out to me are the number of German fighters sitting on the ground. That shows the importance of having oil. Had Hitler had fuel, I doubt that war would've ended as fast.

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Hippie my understanding of it all is that we had almost 10 times the amount of fuel as did the axis tripartite. And we needed it we had long lines of supply going both to Asia and Europe. But that gave us a lot more training time too for our troupes......jk


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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6692191
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We took out the war machine infrastructure in Germany. Can't fight without ammunition, fuel and things like ball bearings.

That's back when we fought to win.

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Nice post. I knew a guy that flew them in ww2. What an experience to have a father, uncle or friend that could tell you the history about actual in time experience. Could just imagine what stories the ground crews could tell.


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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Kirk De] #6692607
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Originally Posted by Kirk De
Nice post. I knew a guy that flew them in ww2. What an experience to have a father, uncle or friend that could tell you the history about actual in time experience. Could just imagine what stories the ground crews could tell.

I wish i would have picked his brain more

Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6692650
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Different era and not in live fire combat but pretty interesting video to hear the emotion in the pilots voices.

https://youtu.be/o7G1rvmwfIk


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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6692738
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Great watch! Thanks for posting.

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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: Finster] #6692779
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They were a tough bird! One of the leading American aces flew a P-47. The P-51 just ended up being a better fighter plane and a lot of the Thunderbolts got converted to fighter-bombers.

Yeah, Germany's lack of fuel hurt them bad, although by half way through the war most of the machines were running on fuel derived from liquefied lignite coal that Germany had in large supply. The year that Germany made the most tanks was 1944, although their industry was obviously in a death spiral. Albert Speer was a very good production manager. Germany paid for Hitler and the Nazis, 4-5 million military deaths/missing, 1-2 million civilian deaths, lost of East Prussia, a divided country for 45 years. I think they've lost their taste for war...


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Re: P-47 Thunderbolts over Germany [Re: NonPCfed] #6692872
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
They were a tough bird! One of the leading American aces flew a P-47. The P-51 just ended up being a better fighter plane and a lot of the Thunderbolts got converted to fighter-bombers.


Are you talking about Don Gentile? He is my paternal grandfather's first cousin. He much preferred the lighter planes he flew in the RAF and the P-51 to the less maneuverable P-47. He racked up the kills anyway.

When he was in his teens, his parents bought Don a plane and he used to fly under bridges in Piqua and through barns. He had incredible reflexes and nerve.

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No, I think I was remembering Robert Johnson who had 27 air kills, all with P-47s. There was also Gabby (Francis) Gabreski who had 28 victories, mostly with P-47.

Here's a link to your relative, most of his victories were with P-51s. They were all tough hombres!

http://acepilots.com/usaaf_gentile.html

A list of ETO, 8th Air Force American fighter aces:

http://acepilots.com/usaaf_eto_aces.html


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