.......document here means nothing ....

Means everything.
You put your tax return on here and then I will.LOL.
You sound like the democrats,lol.What are you going to do Impeach me,LOL.

...;like most on here I don't find the need or want to brag about my catch or skills lol maybe you should try to stay on topic not every post is about you or your skills and your limited knowledge about trapping based on your own little trapline.

I very seldom made his "low", even when prices were good here.

I'll sell through FHA. But I doubt I'll get the kind of averages I got from NAFA

i like turtles

You guys need to keep in mind that boco is talking Canadian money which is typically worth 20 to 30 percent less than ours. Now I'm not trying to take away from Robert and I did say typically. $2000 days is hard for the imagination to grasp at $125 Marten and $150 otter.

$400 days aren't hard to imagine at $40 Marten and $20 beaver

So,...….he averages 10 beaver and 5 marten every calendar day? Or any mix of numbers that come out to 400 cn

Yeah, that was part of my point, sable has been one of the most valuable furs out there, especially on a sq centimeter value. When the marten were over a $100 USD a piece, it wouldn't be hard to pick up 4 a day with enough traps out. Dirt traps marten and says my basic premise that concentrating on sable in the boreal woods and making good coin from it is not correct year in, year out so I'll defer to him. I have not, and probably never will, trap any marten.Given the species that most lower 48 eastern and Midwestern trappers have to work with, on an "average" year over the past 25, it would be hard to get AND sustain $400 a day catch. Maybe there's more guys that can (have) done that, especially if they have multiple gigs a year where they can trap full time Nov through Jan and put in the time. Or just extremely talented and efficient guys who can work full-time (or nearly full time) and still catch lots of animals. That's all I was trying to say.

P.S. The guy that is on his quest of catching a 1,000 yotes this year, let's say he averages $50 a piece for them (I think a lot of them are KS coyotes) that would be 50k in cash flow this year. How much of that 50k would be used up running fuel for his vehicle, 10k, more...?

And don't forget....that's the worst he did. He is a machine.....

And Never Has

He should average more than $50 if the market holds, his expenses will be substantially more than 10k.

Seen way more years of $40 marten than $100 marten. Got NAFA Top Lot one year $43. Didn't see a $50 average until 2005. Marten population varies from year to year. Weather controls harvest also. Season hasn't even started here yet. Because of weather. That is American money. I'm Humble, not bragging.

P.S. I don't sell beaver for $20 unless I get stupid and send them to NAFA.

BTW I don't operate in a boreal forest.

All Hail Dirt and Boco.......

.........were not worthy..were not worthy.....

I dont think a lot of you guys really understand how traplines are run here.On winter land lines We have to let our traps time to work,so we run morelines on extended checks,this means checking less empty traps,and being able to run a lot of traps if we have the ground and inclination.
Often on a typical run I would pick up 5 or 6 different species of fur.
A few otter and a few cat plus 6-12 marten,then the usual weasels squirrels,mink,fox,fisher, etc and it adds up.
Some days the traps will be full with 2-3 otters 12 - 15 marten,2/3 cats maybe a wolf or two.
Now to avg out over time and account for the value of the dollar,I would say marten would hit at 70.A lot of years marten were around 100 and for a few years around 50 then there were the spikes.Some years our dollar was at par with USD most years below(which was better)
Cats would hit around 250,Otter sold for real strong prices for a long time,so Otter would hit at 70.Beaver was fairly solid early in my career,and dropped over time,on avg beaver would hit around 35,maybe a bit less because of the last 5-6 years.In the 70's 80's beaver was king.Avg's were good.
Wolf was a real moneymaker-I sold tanned wolves all day long for 500 ea,for decades thru the outfitters,did not matter quality or prime.Bear was another-2/3 bear a week in the spring for 2-3 weeks brought real good money each year.And the spring under ice beaver runs for a week or two was also good return for the work back in the day.These pelts always brought top dollar at auction
So over the last 40 years or so,avg out on all fur $400 to $500 day on the line was expected.With the high days not uncommon.

In the very odd years that marten dropped to below 40 avg then it was necessary to run longer lines and extend the check times ,and concentrate on other fur If you wanted to keep the daily rate up.
Many years weasels were good money on the marten line.At 8-10 avg and 5-10 a day common they paid the expenses and then some.

oh i believe ya Boco.

Well like I said you can check my blog on the trap talk to see typical trapchecks on a reduced line.I was in my 60's when I posted that.That line is not typical of my haydays.
I'm just trying to share the methods that are used here by trappers,I am by far not near as productive or skilled a trapper as a lot of guys in my area here.

Robert, don't bore them with the details.

Not me. I know better. NAFA started after the fur boom crash in 1987. I thought that was the prices we were talking about?

I actually have records of what NAFA prices were since '96 and '96 was an upswing year until the crash in '97.

Whether one believes it or not-the proof is there,A lot of money was made thru the auction houses by trappers over the last 45 years.I stand by that original statement.I guess if you werent there or are a johnny come lately you cant grasp that.