Re: back to back wettest years...
[Re: Brian K.]
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The USA has reduced it's pollution and is far lower than China and other European countries. Obviously we have left some type of negative foot print on the Earth but that is the price you pay for having your Starbucks coffee beans shipped in overnight and our smart phones that they are mining to the pits of H**l for the rare minerals needed to make them. If we all lived in log cabins and had horses then we could fix it. So before anyone starts talking about climate change please keep this in mind. I'm sick of everyone including teenage foreign girls yelling at America because they know we're the only ones dumb enough to act ashamed and spend Trillions of tax dollars to "FIX" it. When China donates some money to the tree planting cause call me! We were told we'd be dead by now 20yrs ago and I'm still here now it's 12yrs, and if you tell me cow S**t is the reason then bless your heart!
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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A rise in the water levels might not be all bad clean up the Cali sidewalks a bit.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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And that's the rub, most climate/social justice warriors talk a good game but don't actually change their lifestyle much to reduce their environmental footprint. I respect people who actually bust their butt to make such lifestyle changes but they are few and far between. MOst of them that whine about political change of more regs and do a few token things but then its life as usual. When I see Al Gore and Leonardo DiCappro ride a couple of jump seats in the DHL cargo plane from the states to Devos instead of their own private jets, I'll know they are actually a bit serious to change the way they live. I like lessening my energy footprint because it saves me money.
DWC- I hope you catch a bunch of cats on the Sioux this year. Between all the food that has come down the river over the last 2 years and limited access to fishing compared to an "average" year, there should be some fatties in there.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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There are more trees in the US than a 100 years ago. ) And the Amazon is being slashed and burned every day also.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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I guess all these scientists "have their heads in the sand" as well... A peer-reviewed paper published in the Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences finds that Arctic sea ice extent at the end of the 20th century was more extensive than most of the past 9000 years. The paper also finds that Arctic sea ice extent was on a declining trend over the past 9000 years, but recovered beginning sometime over the past 1000 years and has been relatively stable and extensive since. http://research.bpcrc.osu.edu/geo/publications/mckay_etal_CJES_08.pdf
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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From the National Weather Service:
"The past decade was the wettest on record for Wisconsin. Five of the top 10 wettest years occurred in the past decade! 2019 was the wettest year on record for Green Bay, Wisconsin. Shortly after midnight on December 31st, Green Bay reached 48.63" for the year smashing the previous record (39.21") set just last year! Normal yearly precipitation for Green Bay is 29.52", thus the departure from normal was an astounding 19.11 inches! Many areas in northeast Wisconsin had record or near record precipitation in 2019. The record precipitation contributed to record water levels on the Great Lakes and flooding in many areas."
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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Each of the last 4 interglacial periods lasted around 20,000 years,with the last glacial maximum being roughly 20,000 years ago. This indicates we are in an interglacial period,either approaching the mininmum(warmest) or starting back up towards another glacial period.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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From the National Weather Service:
"The past decade was the wettest on record for Wisconsin. Five of the top 10 wettest years occurred in the past decade! 2019 was the wettest year on record for Green Bay, Wisconsin. Shortly after midnight on December 31st, Green Bay reached 48.63" for the year smashing the previous record (39.21") set just last year! Normal yearly precipitation for Green Bay is 29.52", thus the departure from normal was an astounding 19.11 inches! Many areas in northeast Wisconsin had record or near record precipitation in 2019. The record precipitation contributed to record water levels on the Great Lakes and flooding in many areas."
Hard to trap in these conditions.
Brian This after the great lakes had reached record lows in 2013, which scientists attributed to global warming effects. Makes it really hard to take this climate change stuff seriously.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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From the National Weather Service:
"The past decade was the wettest on record for Wisconsin. Five of the top 10 wettest years occurred in the past decade! 2019 was the wettest year on record for Green Bay, Wisconsin. Shortly after midnight on December 31st, Green Bay reached 48.63" for the year smashing the previous record (39.21") set just last year! Normal yearly precipitation for Green Bay is 29.52", thus the departure from normal was an astounding 19.11 inches! Many areas in northeast Wisconsin had record or near record precipitation in 2019. The record precipitation contributed to record water levels on the Great Lakes and flooding in many areas."
Hard to trap in these conditions.
Brian This after the great lakes had reached record lows in 2013, which scientists attributed to global warming effects. Makes it really hard to take this climate change stuff seriously. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS^. Global warming is actually good if you are one of earths millions. we are now growing crops where it wasn't possible before. we are also getting record yields because of the carbons, rain and heat. I wonder how much carbon is harvested by corn and beans in the corn belt? Mud is a pain in the butt, but I"lltake the rain over a drought any day.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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No doubt we are having more extreme weather than we have had in most of our lifetimes. I personally don’t think people have much to do with it. 100 year floods every year and weather getting stuck in a pattern for long periods seem to be the new norm. Might has well just adapt and go with the flow. Like Mark Twain said everyone is talking about the weather but no one is doing anything about it.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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The weather has been changing dramatically for the last few million (er billion) years. Remember, it wasn't long ago (in geologic timeframe) that we here in the upper Midwest had 150 ft of ice on top of us. All natural but every chicken little says the sky is falling.
And Hammer is right. Even if it were man made, nobody giving up their cars, Cell phones, TV or 6 kids because of it.
Some of our winters here have been above normal and some below. Some more snow and some less. Some longer winters and some shorter. I honestly don't see a huge difference to what we had when decades ago. And even if it's a record here and there,it's better than 150 ft of ice on our heads again, I guesss
As for the dakotas, I talked to one OLD farmer out there who said "it floods here about every 10 years...then goes dry again...we old folks are used to it". Well their last floods were almost 10 years ago...so there ya go.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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I don't care for the warming trend at all,I wish we had the predicatable and long cold winters we used to have back in the 60's and 70's.We used to be able to count on weather well below freezing the first week of November and it would stay that way,with a lot less snow until feb/march.
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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Calvin- I show you multiple examples of farmsteads established in the 1880s through the 1910s and never flooded before now in persistent water now of much a lrger lake than it has been in 130 years but whatever, you won't believe me anyway...
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Re: back to back wettest years...
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Several of them old folks that never been flooded out lost their homes this year yes we cycle wet/drought but this year has been unlike any that anyone here has ever seen.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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