I was thinking the same thing.

What I think can't be typed.

Set a closed jawed trap and set It off with a wood dowel. Then measure the highest travel of the leavers on the jaw faces. Then do the same thing with a trap of the same brand but with offset jaws. The levers will travel higher up on the jaws then the closed faced jaws. This will give you a better lock up since the leavers have traveled higher on the jaw faces. This can be called mechanical advantage or lock up. Or what ever trips your trigger.


Making the leavers longer would serve no purpose. It's the cut out portion In the spring leaver and the shoulder on the jaw face that determines the leaver travel not the length of the leaver Itself.

Have to side with Robert Waddell,Red Schoening,Beav and others on this issue.Higher lockup is ideal and id mechanical advantage.

Beave,I have no luck using my earth augers when the ground gets really,really hard.Instead,I use a 1",Bosch,masonry bit and make a mouse hole or two.You can make a slightly bigger hole by wallowing it out wth the bit.I use a rotary hammer with an SDS Plus chuck.The bit cannot slip and never needs tightened,plu it is fast to change out.

Some are using ship auger bits.Sounds promising but I haven't tried them yet.Thanks for the updates.

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Sounds like more mange today. Just doing what he promised for the land owners. Killin coyotes.

590 with today's catch.

Johnny is one heck of a trapper also

Beav ask Robert how and where he’s applying urine at his set. Just curious is this an O’Gorman thing where he squirts urine all over or just down the dirt hole. Thanks

I’d like to know this too!

15 today 5 with mange.

I'll ask those questions tomorrow.

IF you look on his Blog, on page 1. There are some video's on there. Cant remember which one, but he is on their around the 11 min mark with Casey . Its shows his dirt hole set. He seams to just Squirt some urine at the backing and back of the hole. Watch it and see

I wonder if folks are confusing urine with glycerin urine mix used to freeze proof a set verses urine at the set. Cutting glycerin or glycol with straight water seem counter productive imo.

I think a lot of folks are asking questions about it because what he is doing according to what i have read is so far on the simple side compared to what you read about baits lures and urines. From what I am catching he uses bait the coyote wants to eat and a little real coyote urine at the set. No call lures and gland lures to speak of that i have read. No fancy 17 ingredient concoctions. I think the complexity of his work is in the preparation and thought patterns of himself. He just seems like that guy. That is hard for folks to recognize sometimes. He doesn't need anything but himself and the animal to exist in an area for him to find a spot on target and catch the animal. Others like myself struggle with what some already know.

I am just so intrigued by great experienced trappers saying i don't use anything really. I just know where they are at. His quest and reading the work done by others I am rethinking my whole approach and gameplan for trapping all animals.

I think it's easy for us trappers (me being one) to think a lure or fancy bait or new cool set will make us better trappers instead of working to better are skills and understanding of the animals. With that said I do think from my testing that there is a big difference in the attractiveness of a lot of baits and lures being marketed to the trappers out there.

I agree with yes sir , but location is everything !!!!

Robert just got #600.

Mange free so far today.

There is only one secret to catching lots of animals,and that is hard work and long hours.And this guy has got it.

Amen. He out works most before breakfast every day.