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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6731299
01/16/20 04:02 PM
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Sign up for CoyoteU. You will get all the secret sauce you need.. laugh

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6731521
01/16/20 07:49 PM
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Where's the info or link on the 2020 Coyote U schedule?


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6731564
01/16/20 08:28 PM
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Just get in touch with Mark through this site, or www.coyoteu.com has his contact info


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6731900
01/17/20 02:41 AM
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Wow, that is a nice website.

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: beezmador] #6731923
01/17/20 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by beezmador
Yup Zag, none of those YouTube videos have the Chelada secret sauce wink



Oh man.......don't temp me!

MZ


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Boxbirder] #6731928
01/17/20 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Boxbirder
Zag you run 100% pipes??? what percentage DH???



No, not 100%. More and more each year. Just hard to dig a hole when you know it'll fill with water and/or snow. My "hole" sets are usually in big 90 degree banks OR basically my pipe dream set with NO pipe and two small "poke" holes in the grass tuft. But again, at that point, why not put a pipe in knowing it'll hold and protect your stink better than just to wobble holes that won't do as good of a job.

Again, if you live in an area that gets less rain and snow than we do, perhaps traditional holes make more sense. When we trap in Kansas, we are 90% traditional holes......but the area in Kansas we trap gets LESS than an inch of precip per month on average! One inch of precip is a slow Tuesday around here!

So, to the question, I'd guess I am 80% pipes and/or T-Bones around here early season.....the rest being poke holes, bank sets, blind sets, blended flat sets, etc.

I have guys that told me they've benched their augers and no longer make ANY dirt holes because the pipe and grass (in hay fields) or leaves (in the woods) is so dang easy and fast and weather resistant. I'd never advocate that at the outset, but can't argue that there's an evolution with my own approach, and from what I'm told, by others that have drank the Kool-Aid! LOL

MZ


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6732011
01/17/20 07:56 AM
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Mark,
I haven't used the set until this year and it's now my go to when I see "Wintery Mix" in the forecast. I haven't caught enough coyotes to draw a correlation over coincidence but my experience so far has yielded a higher first night catch ratio. When I make a traditional dirt hole or other conventical set, I have first night hook ups but typically 2-3 + days is the norm.
Has this been your experience and others also? It seems that the yotes are more enticed to work the pipe set.

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6732061
01/17/20 09:05 AM
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This mornings result of a Pipe Dream set...only issue was I couldn’t find my screen in the dark. I can sometimes get a couple uses out of them.

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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Eagleye] #6732266
01/17/20 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
Mark,
I haven't used the set until this year and it's now my go to when I see "Wintery Mix" in the forecast. I haven't caught enough coyotes to draw a correlation over coincidence but my experience so far has yielded a higher first night catch ratio. When I make a traditional dirt hole or other conventical set, I have first night hook ups but typically 2-3 + days is the norm.
Has this been your experience and others also? It seems that the yotes are more enticed to work the pipe set.


That's good to hear.....I don't think I can confidently point out a higher first-night percentage than I have with other sets......in the end, the more traps I set up first day, the more I catch the second day!

MZ


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6732493
01/17/20 03:01 PM
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Mark I’m headed in that direction. While I can’t pass up a bank to put a hole set in. My flat ground dirt holes are a mess. Only trapped 3 locations with problem yotes this year. Caught 24. 6 in dirt holes and 18 pipe or flat sets. Had two flat sets produce 3 yotes each before I had to move the set. . Haven’t carried a sitter in years and now the augers may stay home most of the time as well.
Move attractor and repeat. There is a pipe in there somewhere I promise. Lol

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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6732595
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Rob for a guy that works 24 hours a day you sure do find a way to killem. Keep up the good work !

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6732617
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Don I hope to retire before long and really put it on them.




I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.

More trappin' and less yappin'.



Member FTA & USSA.





Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: yoteguts] #6733631
01/18/20 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
Mark I’m headed in that direction. While I can’t pass up a bank to put a hole set in. My flat ground dirt holes are a mess. Only trapped 3 locations with problem yotes this year. Caught 24. 6 in dirt holes and 18 pipe or flat sets. Had two flat sets produce 3 yotes each before I had to move the set. . Haven’t carried a sitter in years and now the augers may stay home most of the time as well.
Move attractor and repeat. There is a pipe in there somewhere I promise. Lol

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Yup, one of my buds gets over 300 canines a year and pretty much quit on holes......all pipes. I have not QUITE got there yet.

What I like about your pic is it also shows an evolution for me. Years ago, I would have normally set in the dirt on the left with a hole set vs. trying to blend into that grass field. I never like trying to blend a dirt set into a hay fields, but I liked how I could do it in dirt. Well, dirt turns to mud eventually! Sure, you can get muddy coyotes in hay fields and I get plenty, but they will be even MUDDIER in a mud field, I promise you that! Pipes have me going in the hay vs. the corn fields when possible.

That said, I won't go OFF LOCATION just to set in the grass, but if I have the choice, I kneel in hay to make my set!

Good to see you bud!

MZ

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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6733643
01/18/20 07:37 AM
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ya ever get a couple days off from all you do Mark,love to have ya come relax,fish or somethin and stay in the guest house.welcome anytime for all you do for trappin.little gas money is all ya'd need. grin









Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6733815
01/18/20 10:33 AM
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When you say 300 K9s are they fox or coyotes

The guy with the videos came up after Ed Snyder or Coon creek. he skins off the front of his truck has videos from the class also.

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Boxbirder] #6734308
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Both.........fox and coyotes....mostly fox.

Go to YouTube, open the video you are talking about, and copy the link here.

MZ


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6735180
01/18/20 11:52 PM
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My 1st pipe set, this 1 being for bobcat. A cat walked by here a week or 2 ago, so figured I better get a set in.


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6735374
01/19/20 08:28 AM
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I caught 6 bobcats in ONE day all in pipes. Honest. In Illinois.....and we had to cut them all loose..............

It was a freak show, because I have caught many cats at all in my lifetime.

And YES those were all coyote sets that the cats just stumbled into.........but they were pipe dreams nonetheless............

MZ


Eastern Coyotes.......Western Numbers.

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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6735568
01/19/20 10:18 AM
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I caught 13 bobcat in pipe sets this season and this is the first year I have used the pipe and also the most bobcat in a season. All coyote sets also. Last year I caught 5 in dirt hole sets for coyote. I also had to let al but one of those go each year. I think the set made the difference but also believe our cat population is booming right now. Will have to see what next year brings.


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6736431
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Great thread.

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