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Dam break trap bedding tips needed #6737432
01/20/20 04:15 PM
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Any suggestions on bedding traps on a dam break when there's no bottom ? Working with Bridger #5 CS if that matters.

Thought about wiring a 330 stabilizer that clips to bottom of a 330 to it.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #6737468
01/20/20 05:03 PM
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Parallel sticks jammed into the dam almost always works

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #6737471
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Make a bottom by pushing some sticks into the top side of the dam so they are level and create a platform then put a chunk of sod on top to help bed your trap in. Make your platform about 16'' deep if you don't like the sod idea- make it deeper if you use the sod. Make it just big enough for your trap to set right where it's back feet will be. OR make it about 10'' deep and set it so a beaver moves right between the jaws and add a few poke sticks that are aimed right at it's eyes so it has to try to walk.

I have better luck setting the crossovers and leave the dam alone.


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Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #6737654
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I'm not sure if it's solid enough for the sticks to hold but will give it a try. This muck is super soft.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #6737722
01/20/20 08:25 PM
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The sticks go into the dam horizontally, not down into the bottom.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #6738176
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Maybe try a snare.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7454271
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
The sticks go into the dam horizontally, not down into the bottom.

can I have a photo? or drawing. I didn't quite get it.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7454273
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Take a look at the video Elimination of Trap Shy Nuisance Beavers by David Lafforthun. F&T Trading Post has the DVD.

His idea will solve your beaver foothold bedding problems in soft muddy bottoms.


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Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7454279
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Take a look at the video Elimination of Trap Shy Nuisance Beavers by David Lafforthun. F&T Trading Post has the DVD.

His idea will solve your beaver foothold bedding problems in soft muddy bottoms.

Thank you . but here in Russia I have no opportunity to buy this DVD

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KOSOI] #7454321
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Originally Posted by KOSOI
Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
The sticks go into the dam horizontally, not down into the bottom.

can I have a photo? or drawing. I didn't quite get it.

One way of doing it, ill post another option tomorrow

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Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7454844
01/09/22 02:19 AM
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thanks SNIPERB. for taking the time to share your drawing with me.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7454852
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Use a 330 swim thru set.Use long poles to hold the 330 and a bit of fencing for guide.Deadly set.


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Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7454859
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thank you Robert! but because of my bad English, it is desirable for me to see a photo or drawing. to understand how it looks.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7454986
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You might look at Black Widow trap stands - Sarah from SheTraps sells them on her website. I bought a couple to try out and can only attest to them holding my MB750 traps solid, but they do list the Bridger #5 as a trap the stand will work with. Works by sandwiching the trap frame between the support rods and pushing the legs of the stand into the dam/bank if using horizontal on a steep drop off situation. I'm planning on fixturing these stands to a pole and using them as under ice platform sets.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7455365
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Good ideas so far. You could carry a short piece of thin fence board if it’s a common issue for you. Push it into the muck, place trap, and then push mud up all around it, especially under the leading edge. Leaving a void under the leading edge will make the trap prone to tipping. The piece of board/plywood provides increased surface area to keep it from sinking.

The same can be accomplished using sticks from the dam, but bringing in a small piece of fence board or plywood would let you get right to it. $2 worth of fence board would make 10 or so. Just an idea...I usually try packing the soil the best I can, although I have seen soil that needs a different approach.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7455457
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On the black widow stands


Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7455467
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The gist of Lafforthun's idea is a tray that the beaver footholds sit in. Eliminates bedding in soft bottom. Works very well. His video shows many ways to support and use the trays. I use em at dam breaks, mounds and crawlouts unless I have a sandy firm bottom.

I dont want to post pics because it is his idea...not mine...and he has a detailed video available on the idea.

Amd...they work great. Rarely any fired footholds...unless a beaver in it.


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Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7455490
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Use a 330 on a stand or hang it on a pole in the run.

Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: KB64] #7455696
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Those Black Widow stands look like just the ticket for those problem areas.


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Re: Dam break trap bedding tips needed [Re: Wolfdog91] #7455876
01/09/22 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
On the black widow stands



It may work for some, but I didn't have good success positioning the trap so that the beaver steps over the jaws. I had too many fired and empty traps, or toenails, because the beaver's back foot was on the jaw and the pan at the same time. The jaw then throws the foot up and out, or almost out. That's why I position my traps 90 degrees different than what was shown in the video. The beaver steps between the jaws, and there's less chance of the foot being thrown up and out. Sure, the foot could still be on the jaw and pan, but the foot will turn as it's being pushed up and will still get a decent hold.

For a front foot catch, it should work, but I've had too many traps set for a front foot catch that ended up with a hind foot catch.



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