Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 03:22 PM
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The regulations posted on the state game website never stated anything about trap placement. I read what was online top to bottom. Just like criminal and traffic laws in this state 90% of all code is not readily available to non LE.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 03:48 PM
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Fight it, that's a clear conflict of interest.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 03:52 PM
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The regulations posted on the state game website never stated anything about trap placement. I read what was online top to bottom. Just like criminal and traffic laws in this state 90% of all code is not readily available to non LE. if that is the case and they have online regs print them all and take them to court if you had no way of knowing the law because it is somehow a secret or kept form you then you have a case
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Re: Opinions
[Re: Law Dog]
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01/21/20 05:10 PM
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Without a set measurement it’s all about opinion the CO writing a ticket he has any involvement in is just dumb to many personal issues and open to abuse of power it being his own dog. "Abuse of power" impeach him. Actually based on the law as written it is within his authority to write the ticket.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 05:41 PM
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Ok to answer some questions, it was on a WMA (wildlife management area) not a state park. There's no leash law, and there's no defined walking path just tractor paths through a pine thicket and around the plowed field. The code section reads like this.To set a trap where it would be likely to injure persons, dogs, stock, or fowl. You need to contact your DNR responsible for the management of the particular WMA Immediately. You were engaged in a Wildlife Related Activity on a WMA which receives Wildlife Restoration Funds (Pitman Robertson). Your activity is absolutely covered as a primary use on a WMA. Walking a dog, whether leased or not, it is referred to as a Non-wildlife depended activity, which never takes precedent over a Wildlife Related Activity. Doing so can be considered a divergence of funds and your State could be jeopardizing Federal Funding. Like I said, you need to contact the Wildlife Manager for the Region of that particular WMA and explain the situation.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: AntiGov]
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01/21/20 05:44 PM
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Without knowing the regulations, all we can do is speculate. But with our regulations here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Same here if it's a marked and or mapped public trail ....gotta be 50 ft from NOT on a WMA...Designating a public foot on a WMA would be considered a divergence of federal funds and would jeopardize PR funding for your State...
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Re: Opinions
[Re: FairbanksLS]
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01/21/20 05:46 PM
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Without a set measurement it’s all about opinion the CO writing a ticket he has any involvement in is just dumb to many personal issues and open to abuse of power it being his own dog. "Abuse of power" impeach him. Actually based on the law as written it is within his authority to write the ticket. Never said he could not right a ticket I said it’s not a smart thing to do big difference.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 05:56 PM
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He was in duty I assume since he was in uniform and vehicle it's the second time I've ran into him there and he was walking his dog which I assume is LE I don't know about GW K9's. I will contact my DNR because I did see where WMA are restricted to fish or game licensed people and hunting takes precedence
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Re: Opinions
[Re: canebrake]
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01/21/20 05:56 PM
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"To set a trap where it would be likely to injure persons, dogs, stock, or fowl."
What a stupid code. Entirely too much gray area. Somebody's dog could wander anywhere.
You have as much of a right to be there as he does. \\ Actually Canebrake, He has MORE of a right to be there....
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 06:10 PM
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He was in duty I assume since he was in uniform and vehicle it's the second time I've ran into him there and he was walking his dog which I assume is LE I don't know about GW K9's. I will contact my DNR because I did see where WMA are restricted to fish or game licensed people and hunting takes precedence When you contact him or her use the terminology that I used in the above post. You were engaged in trapping in a WMA - A Wildlife Depended Activity and the Officer was walking his dog - a Non wildlife dependent activity. I expect your Wildlife Manager will be unhappy about the warden issuing a BS ticket and will help you resolve the issue, but if not, tell him or her you will be contacting the Chief of the Wildlife and Sport Fish Restoration Program at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service...
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 06:12 PM
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I will type this slow for you, had he written a ticket out of anger or misrepresented the PC to base the ticket on because it was his dog that would be a abuse of power issue.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Opinions
[Re: BigBob]
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01/21/20 06:46 PM
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Fight it, that's a clear conflict of interest. BINGO! Jim
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Re: Opinions
[Re: M.Magis]
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01/21/20 06:48 PM
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here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Is there any place on earth including private, posted land where we trappers can set traps and not have worry about trespassing people and their unleashed, not under control dogs stepping in them and we're once again the bad guys ? If there is, I have not found it yet. Part of the reason I hung up my 500+ 1.5 coil springs and gave up fox trapping. w
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