For references i have toe caught and missed a coyote with a MB-650 but have caught and held a coyote in a $7 wolf creek number two perfect pad catch. Beaver have pulled out of Mb-750's or TS-85s but been held dead in a duke #3. Belisles are great traps they aren't the second coming of Jesus though and the only conibear that should or could ever be used. It is possible to catch animals rather well with other brands. I believe this notion is lost on some. Trappers are respectfully brand loyal to a fault sometimes.

The only times I have ever had it happen was under ice.....drowning is drowning.

I have had empty 330s. Could be a number of things that can set one off. I witnessed a piece of ice float into one and set it off. Why would a toe catch be any more inhumane than catching one in a coilspring set for coon or rats ?

I dug this thread back up to make a correction. I was whining about the springs on a Belisle being a bear to set. I meant to say that about Bridger Magnums.
Bridger Magnums are indeed whine-worthy in my opinion. I have one where both springs went all the way around the corners and met in the middle, jamming themselves against the dog. I was battling with it for about ten minutes without success. I figured that if I had to deal with that every time I have to set that trap, I will just hang it up on the wall and forget about it.

I don't ever recall one but I don't use 330's only 220's so that may have something to do with it.

I don't often use bodygrippers for beaver but I have in just the very rare right situation set them Belisle 220's.

Yes...I've swore that the next time I have to use a Bridger mag on the line and it acts up, it will be lucky to make it back to the truck. Luckily I've got enough 330s that I'm not often digging the bottom of the trap barrel to get to the bridgers and don't really want to burden someone else with em

I have. I got some 330s just to try out. First one I set was submerged at a culvert where the beavers were going back and forth through the pipe. I checked it three days in a row and it was empty. I couldn't understand it, because I know beavers had gone through the pipe that last night. I pulled up the trap, and saw that both springs were broken.

I was able to get ahold of BMI. They have 330s for the same price as duke... but are American made.

I’ll be getting half a dozen and comparing them to the dukes. Same price.

Might want to give them a shot

Sometimes things do not go as planned. Here's a muskrat by the tail in a belisle 330 and a beaver by the tail in a belisle 330. I think the beaver either saw the trap and tried to turn around fast hitting the trigger with it's tail or maybe it didn't want to swim through and tried to climb over and flipped the trap up on itself. I would not have had either of these in a regular jawed trap.

Let's see, ten dollar beaver and five dollar rats...I'll take the rat! This doesn't happen much with the Dukes, I think the trigger are generally too stiff, but with it on the bottom in a V, sometimes it does. I don't care for the Belishe's myself. I just have one of them and it's been a problem trap.

Belisles cannot be beat. Can’t load pics. But beavers by the feet and tail. And an otter by the tail. My dukes or sleepy creeks never would have held them.

Belisle

Belisles need to be used as almost a trap category of their own. This is because they do hold anything....by any means possible. There are some ethics involved in this. New trappers should probably start with a lesser brand and work their way up. There are some nuances to Belisle trapping...they should not just be set everywhere. Just my opinion

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Never could justify the cost of belisles so never really put my hands on them and really checked them out. Just bought 3 a few weeks ago for a good deal and I must say I was so impressed by them I contacted the guy I bought the 3 from and got 6 more at that same good price coming in the mail soon. I have already sold my duke and bridgers 330s and don't plan on buying another 330 that isn't a belisles .

If I’m specifically beavering I just want a 330, doesn’t have to be a belisle but I much prefer them. If I’m fur trapping and am just setting a pinch point I’ll go for a belisle every time. Now I will only run belisles I’m my coon boxes. I’m at a 95% rate of having the coon dead in the box and the trap not moved using them

$10.00 more dollars???
I can buy all the Duke 330s I want for $190.00 a Doz And that's with free shipping. A Doz 330 belise's will cost you $300.00 a Doz and I doubt you will get free shipping.

Beav. According to you math maybe his is talking $10 PER trap?

10 bucks per trap seems like a good deal. Each snapped empty Duke equals a missed beaver or otter probably worth close to the 10 bucks .

10 bucks more per trap seems like a good deal. Each snapped empty Duke equals a missed beaver or otter probably worth close to the 10 bucks .