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Green belly #6744718
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Have a red fox with a green belly. Want to have it tanned. What is the best way to handle it?
Thanks

Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6744729
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I use purple power. Spray it on before and after fleshing if needed. It takes out most to all of the green and stops further taint. It wont reverse damage, so you may still get slipping after tanning.

Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6744742
01/26/20 07:49 AM
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Rub bleach on the green area after fleshing then borax .

Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6744905
01/26/20 09:40 AM
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Good grief don’t ever use bleach or borax. You can’t undo damage, but get it salted ASAP and hope.

Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6744950
01/26/20 10:02 AM
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Bleach works great It kills the bacteria and your good to go and It won't harm the skin. I just spray It on the effected parts and then wipe It off after a while. And for the most part green belly Isn't the big deal some seem to think It Is.


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Re: Green belly [Re: The Beav] #6745141
01/26/20 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Bleach works great It kills the bacteria and your good to go and It won't harm the skin. I just spray It on the effected parts and then wipe It off after a while. And for the most part green belly Isn't the big deal some seem to think It Is.


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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6745184
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Although green belly can be serious it is not a serious defect until it turns really dark brown or black, then you will start to see some slippage of fur. I often had coyotes hanging for 2-3 days (even 5) in the shop at 40 - 60 degree F temperature with no problem. The initially frozen coyote in this picture was hung face down for 5 days and was perfectly fine re fur slippage. If you’re worried about it, wiping the area with vinegar or 3% hydrogen peroxide solution will kill the bacteria causing the rot.
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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6745425
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Most of the time the fur wont slip until you tan the skin. Green belly is taint black is rot. Bleach is very caustic and should not be used on the skin.

Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6745459
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Well It works for me so I guess I'll keep using It.

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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6745462
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1/4 bleach 3/4 h20. lightly spray the affected area and let it dry. If smell continues repeat. Works for me

Re: Green belly [Re: M.Magis] #6745480
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Good grief don’t ever use bleach or borax. You can’t undo damage, but get it salted ASAP and hope.

You use Borax for taxidermy I know, I use it on different animals and birds .They started to use borax in place of Arsenic because it was killing too many people .You can tell by the smell of animals that was used on


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Re: Green belly [Re: M.Magis] #6745625
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Good grief don’t ever use bleach or borax. You can’t undo damage, but get it salted ASAP and hope.
Where do you get your information from? Maybe you can enlighten us bleach and borax users??


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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6745962
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Dry it asap.


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Re: Green belly [Re: Boco] #6746008
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Originally Posted by Boco
Dry it asap.

Agree.


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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6746115
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Salt and dry ASAP

Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6746192
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Salt will ruin a hide if you plan on selling It through the auction system and I'm sure no country buyer will touch them.


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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6746726
01/27/20 11:35 AM
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I just stretch and dry green belly like any other hide. It is the belly souring, and discoloring the hide/saddle. If the hide is rotting the hair will slip, known as taint. I don't believe the bacteria can work any damage when dry?


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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6746729
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1/3 bleach, 2/3 vinegar here in a dollar store spray bottle... no problems to date.

Re: Green belly [Re: M.Magis] #6746783
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Good grief don’t ever use bleach or borax. You can’t undo damage, but get it salted ASAP and hope.

I put borax powder on the skin side of all my fox, bobcats, and coyotes. Before the sale, I also clean all the fur with borax powder. I also know a lot of other trappers that do the same thing. I don't know anyone who has had issues with it. Ive even received some of the highest prices on my cats using this method.


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Re: Green belly [Re: poconobear] #6746790
01/27/20 12:13 PM
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Why are you boraxing the skin side? Skipping the flip?


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