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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6751885
01/31/20 09:26 AM
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Wondering if anyone has had success digging up cattails and transplanting them? A: yes
Is it the wrong time of the year to try? A: yes
early spring is best

Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: cls84] #6752087
01/31/20 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cls84
Never heard of people wanting cattails before. I got a small pond behind us that seems like it is getting closer and closer every year to the house as the cattails are creeping up through the yard. Not to high jack the thread but anyone got a good way of killing them? I have sprayed them before but it just seems to have a temporary effect on them as they die and new ones come up right next to them.

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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752123
01/31/20 11:53 AM
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plantin cattails makes as much sense as baiting crabs.









Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752130
01/31/20 11:59 AM
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I find good cover increases my duck hunting also having cattails makes a good place to find muskrats not sure why a guy would not want them for cover and feed.


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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752134
01/31/20 12:02 PM
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get the wrong ones and there won't be room for a duck to land. grin









Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: pcr2] #6752140
01/31/20 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
get the wrong ones and there won't be room for a duck to land. grin



Had that here years ago they won’t even grow here now.

Last edited by Law Dog; 01/31/20 12:05 PM.

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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752144
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lily pads are where the money is,or as the rich call them-lotus.









Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752173
01/31/20 12:36 PM
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Not hard, but you better think twice about transplanting them, they are very hard to get rid of once they take hold.


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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752180
01/31/20 12:45 PM
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https://www.google.com/url?q=https://plants.usda.gov/plantguide/pdf/cs_tyla.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjUtau5pK7nAhVUYs0KHVgsD9gQFjAAegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw1dNcPGfKViC8wgkQSe9lMe

Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752245
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Originally Posted by ambush32
Thanks all for the good info...

This subject was brought up while talking to a good friend that has a pond which has to many cattails for his liking. I offered to take just a few for a small project that I have going on.
Just wasn’t sure if cattails liked to be transplanted..sounds like it’s worth my efforts to go ahead and try..

Thanks again


1=1000 they will choke out your pond or wetland unless you are very diligent in removing them. The man made pond on the farm I bought a few years ago was originally 3/4's of an acre. But because nothing was done with it over some years they knocked back the pond to less than a half acre. They also leave a lot of dead sediment making the pond mucky. Nothing wrong with some in a pond but makes sure you keep fighting them back. That is why your friend has too many in his pond

Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752255
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I think that those who have too many or too thick cattails and also have ice in winter would just mow them off above the ice where they are unwanted you would find that you can configure the portion of the water you want covered.

Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752259
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I have heard the only way to kill them is to cut the below the water line or spray them with some kind of killer that is very toxic.


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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752320
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burn em. crazy









Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #6752350
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Yes they need to be cut below the water line. But without pulling them they still cause the bottom to become mucky. I am trying to reclaim my pond now and I am finding the cost to be pretty extensive. A pond that was dug to 20ft is now only 12 at its deepest point the vegetation left behind from the cattails is terrible and as they spread the "shoreline" follows

Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #7701756
10/27/22 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
spray the head of phragmites with roundup in the fall when it has a head [flower, seed]


It can be 18 feet tall though

I wonder if phragmites is something that a person could easily spread by accident

Perhaps the time of the year affects when/how it spreads

I didn't realize until now that there's a native version of phrag as well

It seems phrag could be a real pest

I'm not sure if it spreads beyond wetlands

I imagine it can negatively affect landowners & water trappers, etc. I'm not sure if it likes shade or moving water

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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #7701909
10/27/22 08:34 AM
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I have trapped muskrat sloughs for 8 years with Phragmites (common reed) invading the cattail areas. The cattails will predominate and keep any phragmites out if the water level is consistently 18 " or more in depth. Reed will provide winter cover in areas of 0-12" of water but not much food. From there on up to 18" its a battle on which plant survives the best Rats will build houses from reed but prefer river bulrush and cattail here. We are in a big time drought here (common on the Great Plains) so the reed will gain some ground for a few years until the we get high water in the sloughs Whomever recommends Roundup to spray reed (in marshes and sloughs) needs to add that it must be AQUATIC ROUNDUP ONLY, as regular off the shelf Roundup kills all types of invertebrates and small creatures that start the marsh/wetland animal food chain/web..... so be sure to read the label before you apply. And yes Aquatic Roundup is more expensive than regular Roundup. The price we pay for healthier environs. ....................... the mike

Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #7701940
10/27/22 08:54 AM
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Cattails are like a Bamboo root system, if you don't get ALL OF IT, they'll grow back. Generally, they also won't grow if they can't get sunlight. Spray with RU during their growing season, dig roots AFTER they're dead.


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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: 20scout] #7701961
10/27/22 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 20scout
I've seen it done several times and it doesn't seem to matter when they are transplanted as they are very hearty. Now saying that, yes there is a europen cattail that is concidered invasive. I don't know the difference but do know the majority of the cattails you see today are the invasive ones. Growing up I don't recall anyone having problems with cattails choking out lakes and ponds like you are today. Think it would be safe to say that this is due to the introduction of the european cattail. Might want to do some more research to make sure you know which one your transplanting.

Choking out lakes is a big problem


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Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: ambush32] #7702089
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For those who get ice thick enough to walk or work on, try mowing the cattails down to the ice during winter to either get rid of them or to create open areas, trails etc. Redo each winter.

Re: Transplanting Cattails [Re: cohunt] #7702644
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I have done a bit of it and seen some others do it and they took right off well. This was on a very small scale and messy as H and not easy work as you are dealing with wet, heavy, muddy plants. Mine was about half of a 5 by 9 foot trailer. I can't imagine doing it on a much larger scale unless one uses way more equipment to handle. For me one also wants to make sure you are moving or working with our native wide leaf cattails and not the hybrids that are annuals with no root bulbs that supply a lot of winter food.

Bryce

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