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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: Catch22] #6761020
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Originally Posted by Catch22

It's easy to pull out a verse and build on it. What about 2 Timothy when the Apostle Paul writes to Timothy from prison in Rome. He tells him to stay away from bad people. Or in 2 Corinthians 6:14 when Paul tells Corinth to not team up with unbelievers. 2 Thessalonians 3:6, Paul says to stay away from bad people, and so on. My point is, define what love Jesus is talking about, I don't believe he in no way means be a door mat. I think he, and Paul mean to let your light shine so it may bring others to the fold. It doesn't mean you have to hang with them, which is written. Secondly, to bolster that, he gave discernment.

I agree with this 100%

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: amspoker] #6761022
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Originally Posted by amspoker
Originally Posted by J Staton
I said Luke but I meant Mark.



Read it too. All the gospels, epistles, etc etc.

Sometimes I even try to make sense of Leviticus.

Why is it better to pluck out your eye according to Jesus?

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6761024
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by upstateNY

Not true my friend.You have to take into consideration when the Bible was written.When they said "the world was flooded" how much of the world did they even know existed at the time?I went to Catholic school from kindergarten through high school,, and even the nuns and priests said you had to take these things

Hate to tell you this... but the Nuns and priests arent all thet Credible...No Authority of the Bible in my mind throws away the half that they want.

I agree with you."men"decided to remove many scriptures that did not alighn with what they wanted you to believe.Thats why I try to have an open mind when it comes to the Bible,,but can still use it as a guideline.


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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: loosegoose] #6761035
02/06/20 09:27 PM
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Every Day upstateNY I pray as a believer to help me do better tomorrow
My salvation is clear and on faith but we're a work in progress

We can get some clarification from God someday when we die.


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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: loosegoose] #6761038
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Well since I'm not important enough to be a good martyr I figure to be a living sacrifice is acceptable to God. When things descend past the living part then the hair raises on the back of my neck and the self-defense mode kicks in.

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: Finster] #6761041
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Originally Posted by Finster
Jesus loved his enemies. Jesus was a better man than I or the rest of you. I cannot be slapped in the face and smile about it. Sorry, I am mortal. All I can say is God bless President Trump! He is the best President in my lifetime and I'm no spring chicken. You fools that want to vote against him should go to the hospital and get your head removed from your arse.


X2. I can’t see how anyone could vote for a Dumocrat after seeing how they hate and obstruct everything recently. They care nothing about the people or the country, only their own hunger for power and control of the ignorant

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: loosegoose] #6761043
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You can still love (show compassion) to someone in your sites...that doesn’t mean you won’t pull the trigger. Wounding someone doesn’t show compassion...headshots do.

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: loosegoose] #6761049
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1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

ad·ver·sar·y
/ˈadvərˌserē/
noun
synonyms: opponent, rival, enemy, foe, nemesis, antagonist, combatant, challenger, contender, competitor, opposer, fellow contestant; opposition, competition;



Are we to love the devil as well?


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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: loosegoose] #6761054
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James 1:19-20 is another good verse on reacting to our "enemies".

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6761060
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

ad·ver·sar·y
/ˈadvərˌserē/
noun
synonyms: opponent, rival, enemy, foe, nemesis, antagonist, combatant, challenger, contender, competitor, opposer, fellow contestant; opposition, competition;



Are we to love the devil as well?

I believe from the context of the scripture that when it speaks of loving our enemy that its is referring to our fellow mankind

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: ] #6761061
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by amspoker
Read it too. All the gospels, epistles, etc etc.

Sometimes I even try to make sense of Leviticus.

Why is it better to pluck out your eye according to Jesus?


The same reason you should pass on one that refuses to return peace unto you.


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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: Wanna Be] #6761062
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
You can still love (show compassion) to someone in your sites...that doesn’t mean you won’t pull the trigger. Wounding someone doesn’t show compassion...headshots do.



We had a neighbor that had an old cat named "Sputnik". One day the March wind caught the door and cut Sputniks tail off. It was an act of God and as a young man I was just an observer.

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: Yes sir] #6761063
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

ad·ver·sar·y
/ˈadvərˌserē/
noun
synonyms: opponent, rival, enemy, foe, nemesis, antagonist, combatant, challenger, contender, competitor, opposer, fellow contestant; opposition, competition;



Are we to love the devil as well?

I believe from the context of the scripture that when it speaks of loving our enemy that its is referring to our fellow mankind


Then why did it say adversary and not your brother or fellow man?


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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: loosegoose] #6761064
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Wait don’t answer that.

We can’t understand the Bible and need scholars to tell us what it means.


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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6761065
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Every Day upstateNY I pray as a believer to help me do better tomorrow
My salvation is clear and on faith but we're a work in progress

We can get some clarification from God someday when we die.

We get clarification every day if we take the time to acknowledge it.Just look at your kids,,or grandkids,,or just smoke billowing out of your chimney when its cold out.Thats all the clarification I need.

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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: Pike River] #6761070
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Lot of buffet Christians here .


Just like a certain political party and the constitution.

Why are you here? Really, why? You are on a site that for the most part is very Christian, very conservative and extremely pro American yet every post you make is the exact opposite. So why are you here? The things we enjoy, hunting, trapping, fishing, the outdoors among other activities are rooted in the basic concept of the beginning of our country yet you always disagree. Why are you here?

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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: upstateNY] #6761071
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
I use the Bible like I use recipes.They are a "guideline"Great thing to start out with as a base, but some things need to be "tweeked" a bit. grin

2 Peter 1:20-21
But know this first of all, that no prophesy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God

Re: Love your enemies? [Re: Finster] #6761072
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by Pike River
Lot of buffet Christians here .


Just like a certain political party and the constitution.

Why are you here? Really, why?


To stir the pot


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Re: Love your enemies? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6761079
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

ad·ver·sar·y
/ˈadvərˌserē/
noun
synonyms: opponent, rival, enemy, foe, nemesis, antagonist, combatant, challenger, contender, competitor, opposer, fellow contestant; opposition, competition;



Are we to love the devil as well?

No. When Satan tempted Jesus, Jesus whipped him with the word of God, he said it was written. Jesus whipped him but didn't try to convert him because Satan's fate had and is sealed.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Love your enemies? [Re: Yes sir] #6761080
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by upstateNY
I use the Bible like I use recipes.They are a "guideline"Great thing to start out with as a base, but some things need to be "tweeked" a bit. grin

2 Peter 1:20-21
But know this first of all, that no prophesy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God


So ask yourself why would there be contradictions in the Bible?


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