Re: Pipe set vs dirt hole
[Re: plainstrapping25]
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02/10/20 06:47 AM
02/10/20 06:47 AM
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WadeRyan
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Maybe why it's so effective is it's more weather proof. I just stared at one of mine and noticed how my haylage looked and blended inn. I than thought how it laid down on the trap as weed stumble and grass stood up and thought how a coyote would flow into set. That's been the basis behind Mark's use of it the entire time. He's always said it was the weather proofing that made it work for him. As you can see from his comment above. Curious, after you thought about that coyote flowing into your set did it?
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Re: Pipe set vs dirt hole
[Re: Zagman]
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02/10/20 10:00 AM
02/10/20 10:00 AM
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bobcat_trapper
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I'd never be so bold as to say one way or the other......but I WILL say this:
The pipes stay operative longer for me in inclement weather, so they get the nod........
Now I will shut up!
MZ Thanks Mark for talking too me as we walked out the demo. When we was at nta. I used to use dirt holes most of the time. But I went to pipe set in woods. My sets r working in the rain. The rain dont wash cover away. I went to the pan covers. They work great
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Re: Pipe set vs dirt hole
[Re: plainstrapping25]
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02/10/20 12:42 PM
02/10/20 12:42 PM
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Zagman
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I don't want anyone to think that I no longer use hole sets.......when I do, its in a drier piece of ground that I KNOW drains well OR when I am in Kansas! LOL
Trappers who see NO value in even ATTEMPTING to try this approach very simply don't trap in the same conditions that I do, and therefore have no NEED to try it. I get that......
That said, it does NOT mean that the set is a gimmick or an amateurish-type set (I've heard both) from those naysayers......as it has clearly proven itself FAR outside of my own usage and success.
They are just easier to put in for most guys......digging holes by hand or EVEN with an auger can wear a guy out (I'm 55! :)) Carrying dry dirt in bulk, or even peat, is FAR more involved than a couple bags of grass. I can usually get 30-40 sets out of ONE onion sack full. If an onion sack weighs two pounds, I'd be shocked.
What does waxed dirt or sand, bone dry dirt or even peat moss weigh for 40 sets? 80 sets? 120 sets????
In the end, EVERYONE is always hung up on or talking about the pipe. My PIPE DREAM set is about a bedding method, and steel screen and grass or ground hay covering, and a lure/bait metering device (pipe) that ALL work in concert together to give me a "weather-resistant" approach (NO SET IS 100% WEATHER-PROOF.....even a SNARE!)
What I like best about it is the maintenance free aspect. If we get 3 inches of rain, I probably have to tweak all of my hole sets........Pipe sets? I just drive right on by!
Set it and forget it!
MZ
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Re: Pipe set vs dirt hole
[Re: plainstrapping25]
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02/10/20 12:59 PM
02/10/20 12:59 PM
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The Beav
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I get my grass off the top of those chopper boxes. It's bone dry and already ground up. Makes a great trap covering.
The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
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