Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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Good stuff Keith!!! Thanks... never read that before! You're welcome. If you go to: https://www.familysearch.org/en/and enter your grandparents. You may be able to pull up huge numbers of your ancestors. They have more of my ancestors then I could probably look at if I wanted to accomplish anything else in the rest of my life. The farther back you go, the more repeats of the same people you will see in your pedigree. Some people are likely in your written pedigree hundreds of times and in reality many thousands of time. There may be people that let you connect yourself to Adam and Eve. Most of the English, Irish, Scottish, French, Norwegian, Danish and Swedish kings do and they are very inbred. The DNA evidence does appear to show that we are all out of one woman and possibly a few men at one point and that there were population crashes where the population went down to small numbers of people. There is definitely some truth in the Bible. The older information was mostly passed down by word of mouth. There are most likely some errors. Keith
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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If the last of humanity ended up on a boat how did we end up having populations with various amounts of archaic humanoid DNA? How did Europeans end up with Neanderthal DNA and Sub Saharan Africans did not? How do Sub Saharan Africans end up with Archaic DNA that Europeans do not have? Because the science of DNA is the work of the devil.
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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I'm pretty sure some of you guys could trace your lineage back to the neanderthals Thats another thread Pat : Amazing Keith
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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If the last of humanity ended up on a boat how did we end up having populations with various amounts of archaic humanoid DNA? How did Europeans end up with Neanderthal DNA and Sub Saharan Africans did not? How do Sub Saharan Africans end up with Archaic DNA that Europeans do not have? I think the Hebrews likely borrowed most of their oldest history. I think there was a large flood, that killed lots of people, but definitely not all. Babylonian, Sumerian, Egyptians, Yazidis and more all have the same story. The Neanderthal genes were picked up by Asians and Europeans after our common ancestors left Africa, by interbreeding with Neanderthals. Sub Saharan Africans interbred with non homosapien, homo species after the ancestors of Asians and Europeans left Africa. The concept of world was different in the past. The Scadanavian people believed in 9 worlds. I have people in my pedigree, from most of the 9 worlds including Elfheim, Jotunheim and Valhalla. I am positive they were not elves, giants and gods, though it is pretty cool to be traceably descended from Odin. I think worlds referred to isolated kingdoms rather than another planet, especially when you read the descriptions in the Sagas. Keith
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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If the last of humanity ended up on a boat how did we end up having populations with various amounts of archaic humanoid DNA? How did Europeans end up with Neanderthal DNA and Sub Saharan Africans did not? How do Sub Saharan Africans end up with Archaic DNA that Europeans do not have? Because the science of DNA is the work of the devil. WoW! Heresy ! The sun revolves around the earth! Only devil worshipers would say the sun is at the center. Just wow. I say a prayer for you that you don’t need genome mapping (DNA) to fight cancer or some other genetic disease Hopefully you were being sarcastic BC
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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If the last of humanity ended up on a boat how did we end up having populations with various amounts of archaic humanoid DNA? How did Europeans end up with Neanderthal DNA and Sub Saharan Africans did not? How do Sub Saharan Africans end up with Archaic DNA that Europeans do not have? I think the Hebrews likely borrowed most of their oldest history. I think there was a large flood, that killed lots of people, but definitely not all. Babylonian, Sumerian, Egyptians, Yazidis and more all have the same story. The Neanderthal genes were picked up by Asians and Europeans after our common ancestors left Africa, by interbreeding with Neanderthals. Sub Saharan Africans interbred with non homosapien, homo species after the ancestors of Asians and Europeans left Africa. Keith You can see how that does not jive with the Noah's ark story.
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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The DNA evidence does appear to show that we are all out of one woman and possibly a few men at one point and that there were population crashes where the population went down to small numbers of people. There is definitely some truth in the Bible. The "mitochondrial Eve," to which this claim refers, is the most recentcommon female ancestor, not the original female ancestor. There wouldhave been other humans living earlier and at the same time. The mtDNAlineages of other women contemporary with her eventually died out.Mitochondrial Eve was merely the youngest common ancestor of alltoday's mtDNA. She may not even have been human. 2. The same principles find that the most recent human male commonancestor ("Y-chromosome Adam") lived an estimated 84,000 years afterthe "mitochondrial Eve" and also came from Africa (Hawkes 2000;Underhill et al. 2000; Yuehai et al. 2001). 3. The results assume negligible paternal inheritance of mitochondrialDNA, but that assumption has been called into question. Male mtDNAresides in the tail of the sperm; the tail usually does not enter theegg that the sperm fertilizes, but rarely a little bit does. It isalso possible that there is some recombination of mtDNA betweenlineages, which would also affect the results (Awadalla et al. 1999;Eyre-Walker et al. 1999). But these challenges have themselves beenquestioned (Kivisild et al. 2000). Links: Kunchithapadam, Krishna, 1995, 2000. What, if anything, is aMitochondrial Eve? http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/mitoeve.html
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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Parts do jive up.
Remember it was much harder to travel back then. People had no concept of how big the earth truly is.
Keith I believe in a catastrophic flood, I even believe it wiped out much of humanity living along the coast and most of the evidence probably is under water since the water levels are now much higher. Likely cause of the flood was a asteroid slamming the North American ice sheet around 10,000 years ago.
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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Parts do jive up.
Remember it was much harder to travel back then. People had no concept of how big the earth truly is.
Keith I believe in a catastrophic flood, I even believe it wiped out much of humanity living along the coast and most of the evidence probably is under water since the water levels are now much higher. Likely cause of the flood was a asteroid slamming the North American ice sheet around 10,000 years ago. Our beliefs are similar on most of this subject matter. Keith
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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If the last of humanity ended up on a boat how did we end up having populations with various amounts of archaic humanoid DNA? How did Europeans end up with Neanderthal DNA and Sub Saharan Africans did not? How do Sub Saharan Africans end up with Archaic DNA that Europeans do not have? I think the Hebrews likely borrowed most of their oldest history. I think there was a large flood, that killed lots of people, but definitely not all. Babylonian, Sumerian, Egyptians, Yazidis and more all have the same story. The Neanderthal genes were picked up by Asians and Europeans after our common ancestors left Africa, by interbreeding with Neanderthals. Sub Saharan Africans interbred with non homosapien, homo species after the ancestors of Asians and Europeans left Africa. The concept of world was different in the past. The Scadanavian people believed in 9 worlds. I have people in my pedigree, from most of the 9 worlds including Elfheim, Jotunheim and Valhalla. I am positive they were not elves, giants and gods, though it is pretty cool to be traceably descended from Odin. I think worlds referred to isolated kingdoms rather than another planet, especially when you read the descriptions in the Sagas. Keith So Keith...now not only are you descended from "the pilgrims", but also from Noah and Odin? By chance, do you prefer Dos Equis as well? What are the chances that this website tends to splash some colorful historical references in to keep up traffic on the site? It would be interesting to see what someone else's history would contain. "Sub Saharan Africans interbred with non homosapien, homo species after the ancestors of Asians and Europeans left Africa." -KeithCIs this your way of publicly stating on the internet that you believe Africans interbred with primates? Asking for a friend...
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Re: According to the Bible it wasn't "Regional flood
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In the Beginning...
With God all things are possible No matter what evidence is presented you will believe in the bible stories and that is okay. I personally think there is more to be gained from the bible by not taking it literally, I believe the stories are parables or metaphors and offer much more substance if taken as such.
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