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New to lure making
#6764950
02/10/20 02:44 AM
02/10/20 02:44 AM
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Southern Nevada
cat_trapper_nv
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Decided to keep the glands on my cats this season. I separated the main glands (ears, hind leg, anal) into one container and the intestines, stomach, kidney, 1/4 liver with gal, bladder, and paw pads into another container. The main glands I ran through the food processor with some sodium benzoate to preserve them fresh. The other parts I ran through the processor, and put them in a container with loose lid and some cheese cloth to age till the gasses stop. I’m planning on using the main glands as is. The only exception being that I want to mix it with petroleum jelly so it sticks good and is weather proof. The aged stuff I want to experiment with making a curiosity lure similar to powder river cat call. Someone sent me a caster glands so I have that To work with as well.
Any advise would be great. I pretty much only target cats in exposed walkthroughs. Sometimes I put a dirt hole with cat smells in areas where I would t mind a coyote either.
Last edited by cat_trapper_nv; 02/11/20 05:23 PM.
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: cat_trapper_nv]
#6765315
02/10/20 12:37 PM
02/10/20 12:37 PM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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Vaseline does lock in odor and in my opinion its best used only to waterproof snares so they will work through a freezing rain. if you havnt added it yet dont. if your determined to try it anyway do yourself a favor and only ruin a small amount of your material as an experiment
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: danny clifton]
#6765428
02/10/20 02:45 PM
02/10/20 02:45 PM
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Central NC
traprjohn
trapper
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Central NC
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Vaseline does lock in odor YEP, skins over. many folks use Lanolin, available from several suppliers, but cheapest off Amazon. Look in any of the 10-12 catalogs that'r sposd to be on your desk. JR and Sons is the first comes to mind.
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: cat_trapper_nv]
#6766509
02/11/20 03:01 PM
02/11/20 03:01 PM
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Nevadafornia
Lazarus
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Kinda puts a commercial lure maker in a predicament . . . to either tell you, "Yes, by golly, that's a killer lure you have there and you discovered in one session what it took me 20 years to develop," or . . . . "Dude, I've tried what you are trying and it resulted in a wasted bunch of good lure ingredients." If a commercial lure maker comes clean and tells you that you've hit the home run with the lure formula, then he's cutting off his nose to spite his own face. If he tells you that you're wasting your time with that formula, he comes off as a Debbie Downer, probably offends you, and ultimately deprives you of learning for yourself whether your concoction is good, bad or indifferent.
Back in the 50's or 60's, I can't remember which one, there was a group that figured they had all the ingredients and methods to make a nuclear weapon. . . . in their garage. The feds learned about it somehow and put the kybosh on the whole thing saying that what the group was publishing about the bomb was a national secret threat/disclosure of military secrets, etc. The group sued the feds, saying they had a first amendment right to publish their ideas and theories about the components of nuclear weapons. I can't remember the outcome (I think the Court upheld the federal government restriction based on national security concerns), but I do remember one of the justices saying essentially the same thing -- the government was put in a predicament to say the group's "recipe" was either right or wrong. If they said it was right, then everyone would know how to build a nuclear bomb, and if they said they were wrong, then the feds would have no national security concerns about what the group was doing because they couldn't in fact build a bomb in the way they were saying they could.
Anyway, I think its a bit the same way. Lots of fun to fiddle with lures and smells though.
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: Lazarus]
#6766513
02/11/20 03:08 PM
02/11/20 03:08 PM
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Southern Nevada
cat_trapper_nv
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Kinda puts a commercial lure maker in a predicament . . . to either tell you, "Yes, by golly, that's a killer lure you have there and you discovered in one session what it took me 20 years to develop," or . . . . "Dude, I've tried what you are trying and it resulted in a wasted bunch of good lure ingredients." If a commercial lure maker comes clean and tells you that you've hit the home run with the lure formula, then he's cutting off his nose to spite his own face. If he tells you that you're wasting your time with that formula, he comes off as a Debbie Downer, probably offends you, and ultimately deprives you of learning for yourself whether your concoction is good, bad or indifferent.
Back in the 50's or 60's, I can't remember which one, there was a group that figured they had all the ingredients and methods to make a nuclear weapon. . . . in their garage. The feds learned about it somehow and put the kybosh on the whole thing saying that what the group was publishing about the bomb was a national secret threat/disclosure of military secrets, etc. The group sued the feds, saying they had a first amendment right to publish their ideas and theories about the components of nuclear weapons. I can't remember the outcome (I think the Court upheld the federal government restriction based on national security concerns), but I do remember one of the justices saying essentially the same thing -- the government was put in a predicament to say the group's "recipe" was either right or wrong. If they said it was right, then everyone would know how to build a nuclear bomb, and if they said they were wrong, then the feds would have no national security concerns about what the group was doing because they couldn't in fact build a bomb in the way they were saying they could.
Anyway, I think its a bit the same way. Lots of fun to fiddle with lures and smells though. Haha ain’t it the truth. I’m not looking into finding the secret to drawing in cats. I try putting my sets where a cat wants to travel anyways. Just looking to slow it down so it steps on my trap while moving through. I’m sure I could do the same with no lure haha.
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: cat_trapper_nv]
#6766554
02/11/20 03:42 PM
02/11/20 03:42 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
"Callie's little brother"
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Marion Kansas
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Kinda puts a commercial lure maker in a predicament . . . to either tell you, "Yes, by golly, that's a killer lure you have there and you discovered in one session what it took me 20 years to develop," or . . . . "Dude, I've tried what you are trying and it resulted in a wasted bunch of good lure ingredients." If a commercial lure maker comes clean and tells you that you've hit the home run with the lure formula, then he's cutting off his nose to spite his own face. If he tells you that you're wasting your time with that formula, he comes off as a Debbie Downer, probably offends you, and ultimately deprives you of learning for yourself whether your concoction is good, bad or indifferent.
Back in the 50's or 60's, I can't remember which one, there was a group that figured they had all the ingredients and methods to make a nuclear weapon. . . . in their garage. The feds learned about it somehow and put the kybosh on the whole thing saying that what the group was publishing about the bomb was a national secret threat/disclosure of military secrets, etc. The group sued the feds, saying they had a first amendment right to publish their ideas and theories about the components of nuclear weapons. I can't remember the outcome (I think the Court upheld the federal government restriction based on national security concerns), but I do remember one of the justices saying essentially the same thing -- the government was put in a predicament to say the group's "recipe" was either right or wrong. If they said it was right, then everyone would know how to build a nuclear bomb, and if they said they were wrong, then the feds would have no national security concerns about what the group was doing because they couldn't in fact build a bomb in the way they were saying they could.
Anyway, I think its a bit the same way. Lots of fun to fiddle with lures and smells though. Haha ain’t it the truth. I’m not looking into finding the secret to drawing in cats. I try putting my sets where a cat wants to travel anyways. Just looking to slow it down so it steps on my trap while moving through. I’m sure I could do the same with no lure haha. Why post the question then?
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: cat_trapper_nv]
#6766563
02/11/20 03:58 PM
02/11/20 03:58 PM
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Southern Nevada
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I didn’t ask a question. Just said what I was doing and said i would be happy with any advise
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: Yes sir]
#6766581
02/11/20 04:28 PM
02/11/20 04:28 PM
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Is there a difference between inviting advise and asking for advise Yes inviting advise means I'm not looking for anything, but don't mind what others ideas are. Asking means I don't know what to do and need help.
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: cat_trapper_nv]
#6766592
02/11/20 04:49 PM
02/11/20 04:49 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,124
Marion Kansas
Yes sir
"Callie's little brother"
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"Callie's little brother"
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Is there a difference between inviting advise and asking for advise Yes inviting advise means I'm not looking for anything, but don't mind what others ideas are. Asking means I don't know what to do and need help. Ok now that we are on the same page, if you weren't looking for anything what was the purpose of your post?
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Re: New to lure makong
[Re: Yes sir]
#6766600
02/11/20 05:04 PM
02/11/20 05:04 PM
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Southern Nevada
cat_trapper_nv
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Ok now that we are on the same page, if you weren't looking for anything what was the purpose of your post?
*shake my head*. I already answered that. I was just saying what I was doing. Didn't know a post had to be a question.
Last edited by cat_trapper_nv; 02/11/20 05:10 PM. Reason: decided to change to a nicer response
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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