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Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779098
02/22/20 02:19 AM
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A promise of something for nothing always influences several voters. A president cannot change tax rates. The change has to go through congress.

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779107
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A president can not change tax rates on his own, but he can pressure the legislature to create new laws. One of the easiest ways is to refuse to sign any bills into law until the legislature gives him what he wants. The president can also use the attention his office garners to make the legislature look very bad if they don't cooperate with him.

Keith

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: Catch22] #6779128
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Originally Posted by gryhkl
We were promised that we would all have a healthcare that all Americans would love.
“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

There is still no plan

Did you post on the wrong thread lol???


catch, don't you think much of the reason taxes would have to be so high under Bernie's plan is to pay for healthcare? I suppose I should have spelled that out but I thought most understood that it is a major part of his plan......Wrong thread? Nope.

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779133
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Just spent 10 days in Germany and they have adjusted their sales tax to 19%. There's a well paid beaurocrat around every corner to make sure the citizens are compliant. The targeted wealthy that Warren and Sanders tell people will pay for it have adjusted accordingly to mitigate their tax burden which makes the govt increase those not so wealthy to cover it. Every household pays taxes for every radio and tv they own. Now they decided that even the people who don't should as well. Their healthcare used to be free, they pay for insurance , have deductibles and its single payer . I've seen the too old for proper treatment firsthand.

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779148
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A free cell phone should be worth a few million votes...

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: coop] #6779163
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Originally Posted by coop
A free cell phone should be worth a few million votes...


Free cell phones. That's one that won't die.
The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration.
The Lifeline program only covers monthly discounts on landline or wireless telephone service for eligible consumers. It does not pay cellular companies to provide free cell phones to consumers, although some
cellular service providers choose to offer that benefit to their Lifeline customers.

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779180
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I love the endless combat between left and right....it's bloody entertaining if nothing else....

This civil war we have brewing should be great fun.


Keep your boots dry and your powder too.

I remember when a fur check was reality.....now I'm just trapping for the love of it.

Best Regards,

JT
Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779189
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Talk of a civil war and revolt by gun owners should have more sane gun owner concerned. If anything like that happens it will almost certainly be the end of private gun ownership in the country.------------be very careful what you wish for.

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779195
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Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779232
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I don't see any easy fix for the American healthcare system. I think some basic level of care should be available for everyone, including vaccinations for communicable diseases. I think health exams for poor children should be available too. I think it is in the public's best interest to keep Americans reasonably healthy.

I also think it is in the public interest to help people with issues that prevent people from working or having an adequate quality enough of life to take care of themselves, if they can't afford it. For instance fixing the knees of a working poor American, on the public dime, if they can't afford it, to make them a happier, productive citizen again.

Realistic tort reform could greatly reduce the cost of medical treatment and medicine in the US.

Keith

Make health insurance, both government and private, illegal as heroin to sell or purchase. Let a true free market reign when it comes to health care. Competition for clients will drive prices down. If the health care industry gets to greedy, all their potential clients kill over. Not very profitable for doctors, nurses, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, etc. That's the only way for a truly free society to control healthcare cost...the free market.

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: KeithC] #6779290
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That would help too, but I don't think you could implement any fix all at once.

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: gryhkl] #6779308
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Talk of a civil war and revolt by gun owners should have more sane gun owner concerned. If anything like that happens it will almost certainly be the end of private gun ownership in the country.------------be very careful what you wish for.



Your assuming we would lose that fight. I don’t think you understand the players involved just look at VA, rural VS city not as the Government VS the people that people want everyone to believe it would be. Never assume as we would not know until that day comes l hope it never will.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: gryhkl] #6779334
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Talk of a civil war and revolt by gun owners should have more sane gun owner concerned. If anything like that happens it will almost certainly be the end of private gun ownership in the country.------------be very careful what you wish for.



In the American War for Independence most think it was all about taxes and the Boston Tea Party or the warrantless search of homes or the take over of homes for the red coats to live in. But the final straw was the take over of arms and complete submission. We know how that turned out !

Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: AntiGov] #6779446
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Why on God's green earth should government supply health care?


Government does not supply anything. They re distribute tax money after taking their cut. I sure hope we will never have to find out how expensive all that " free " government stuff is really going to get. S socialist is just a communist that does not have the power to take the guns off his populace by force.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Robbing Peter, to Pay Paul, to rob Paul. [Re: Scuba1] #6779451
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Why on God's green earth should government supply health care?


Government does not supply anything. They re distribute tax money after taking their cut. I sure hope we will never have to find out how expensive all that " free " government stuff is really going to get. S socialist is just a communist that does not have the power to take the guns off his populace by force.


Government does not produce anything either, therefore must survive by taxes.

A socialist is still a commie, but doesn't have the guts to admit it.

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