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Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: AuthorTrapper] #6807784
03/18/20 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AuthorTrapper
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I might add 080808,

When something is built and runs like a Deere, I go all in!

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Objection! I'm a Dodge guy! laugh


I was just in Kansas for our Trapping Academy AuthorTrapper. Two days before I was slatted to pick up leased Dodge trucks, all the Enterprise Dodge trucks were recalled! Ouch.
We got Fords.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6808248
03/19/20 09:55 AM
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Fords are the way to go in my opinion. Personally I would buy a Ford, Chevy or foreign over a Dodge. The only thing Dodge has I want is a ‘70 Charger.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6808364
03/19/20 11:19 AM
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I have 15 doz MB 550's and have NEVER lost any animal out of them. I did buy 2 dozen Duke 550's this winter to try out and will buy a couple dozen of the Duke 650's to try. When I'm trapping I don't have time to mess with bent, broke or trap problems. I don't care what brand it is, gives me problems and I will get rid of them. Can't make money messing with problem traps

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6808365
03/19/20 11:20 AM
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I'm a Toyota man myself. Nothing holds up like one. I have one sitting in the driveway right now with 395,000 miles on it, and it has been owned by a houndman since it was new. It is starting to use a little oil but other than changing oil regularly and the timing belt twice, neither motor or tranny has been touched. Body is pretty rough, it's been rolled once, but it still runs good.

Unfortunately I also need a big truck to haul loads for work. Currently own an 08 Dodge 3500. The Cummins is a great motor, but the rest of the truck will fall apart around it while it is still going strong. And I will never recommend the automatic transmission. I have always been a strong proponent of standard transmissions but I couldn't find one for a reasonable price and everybody was swearing that the new Dodge auto was as good as Alison. I beg to differ, I have had it rebuilt twice in 130,000 and I don't hardly ever tow, and drive like an old man!

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6808678
03/19/20 03:46 PM
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What has brands of trucks have to do with MB 550 vs Duke 550 traps? SOS


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Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: Cootswatter] #6808680
03/19/20 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cootswatter
I tried 24 Dukes this year and the 20 that didn't break are already sold. Sorry. NO BS. Unless Nebraska Coyotes are super strong.
That's what I get buy AMERICAN when you can. Why NOT support China? crazy

Originally Posted by Cootswatter
I tried 24 Dukes this year and the 20 that didn't break are already sold. Sorry. NO BS. Unless Nebraska Coyotes are super strong.
That's what I get buy AMERICAN when you can. Why NOT support China? crazy



Waiting on pictures..or it didn’t happen!

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Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6808758
03/19/20 05:13 PM
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Anyone looking to buy a different truck should Google vehicle problems for that particular year/model. Look at the owners forums that are available for each brand your interested in. You'll be surprised that NONE of them are bullet proof. I had Toyotas for 25yrs and then bought a Ford in 2010. Later I find out about the variable valve timing problem due to a sub par oiling system, and the wonderful transmission seal leak. Ford is having a bunch of problems with almost every motor they use. Moody;s just downgraded Ford stock due to warranty claim problems.
I had very little issue with 5 different Toyota trucks. The 2 problems I had were common to everyone and repaired no cost. I now uncover the fact that, yes, Toyota does have some issues, some dealers will warranty, others won't even discuss. One problem has been traced back to at least 2011 on Tundra motors that develop and oil leak at the seal between the cam towers and the head surface. Still not corrected at assembly (motors are assembled in Atlanta). That's 9 years ago.
People can purchase whatever brand they like, I have learned to do a lot of research.
Sorry I sidetracked the MB550 vs Duke thread. I have MB's.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: ] #6808775
03/19/20 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
As we see, when trapping products come up for comparison on Tman, there are typically comments for product A and product B, and some consider price as a component of their consideration. I don't consider price as much as I consider how long will something last? You can buy cheap twice and it's now more expensive than the real deal. I, like many, learned that years ago when foreign goods began showing up on American shelves. How many of us "wish" we could buy something "good" again (like the old days) in a particular category - as we use it and use it and use it some more?

Sadly, some categories now are only filled with cheap junk as consumers flocked to buy cheap stuff and good stuff manufacturers folded because of it.

MTP and Duke have both been solid supporters of our vocation for decades. There's no question about that.

My MB550s, purchased more than 11 years ago are going super strong. Same as the day I bought 'em. You can't find that in another trap on the market unless you invest in Jakes, etc. I appreciate the MTP crew (Rob Caven) providing the industry a trap in 2008 that we asked for and we didn't have to mess with (ready out of the box for coyotes) and now it's become the top trap in category - so we can anticipate cheaper knock offs will come out. China is that competitor, and Duke was the inspiration I guess? I really don't care about all that.

None of us have money to burn, but I'm sticking with MB550s. The real deal. They last and last. Not sure how long? Springs and all are 100% after 11 years! Money well spent!
A few bucks saved in the short term will cost me in the long run and I ain't getting dealt into that hand.

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Yep!!! Trust me all, the levers and the springs on the Dukes will be a problem for those that trap hard all season.... MB all the way!

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Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6809054
03/19/20 08:57 PM
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I had no problems with the levers but think duke will fix the problem if they get bad feedback just like they did with the #2 duke and the D ring.The springs are just fine IMO.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: forestman3] #6809148
03/19/20 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
I had no problems with the levers but think duke will fix the problem if they get bad feedback just like they did with the #2 duke and the D ring.The springs are just fine IMO.


They have already offered to send new levers to anyone having trouble. This years version will have thicker stronger levers. They always listen to their customers. You have to expect certain issues can arise on a new design. MTP had several design changes when they started their 550 as well.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6809215
03/19/20 10:31 PM
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I will be buying American designed traps from the American company that designed them.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6809419
03/20/20 03:47 AM
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Here is my opinion. I was going to buy a dozen or two of the Dukes because of the price. $80 a dozen cheaper is a heck of a deal. Two of my buddies bought some of the Dukes to try them out too. At first glance the only difference is the shape of the pan. Once you feel the Duke trap in your hand after handling a MB the Duke just feels cheaper. Then you look at the chain on the Duke. Its lighter weight and the swivels are janky. Both of my buddies had traps that the levers bent. Both of them lost traps due to the chain or swivel breaking. One guy has already sold them ,the other will use them until they are no longer usable.

So if you change out the swivels and chain on the Dukes you are not really saving that much money. Then add in the fact that you will have to replace these traps quicker. Ill stick with the MB's


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Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6809831
03/20/20 12:12 PM
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Where's the pictures of these broken chains and swivels? I don't believe you were told the truth by your buddies or they were causing it pulling the traps or catching something much bigger than the target animals listed for the traps.

The bent levers has already been addressed.

When I bought my first dozen MB550's, when they first came out, they wouldn't even stay set, slipped right off the dog. I sold them. They made changes and improved the later versions. Last year was the first year of production of the Dukes 550 and I'm sure they too will make improvements.

Most every big coon trapper agrees the Duke 1.5 DJ is the best coon trap available. However if you were around years ago their 1.5 DJ was not too great, pan set about 3/4" above the jaws and DJ was just a dimple pressed into the jaw hardly widened the jaw at all.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6810074
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I have asked for pictures ADC also ...or it didn’t happen.. SOS !!


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Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6811166
03/21/20 10:48 AM
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I stopped by a local hardware store today to get a bag of fertilizer. I noticed they had some of the Duke 550s on the shelf. I thought about grabbing a couple till I seen the price. $26 a trap. Crazy!!

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6811347
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Ordering a dozen MB550’s today. With this virus and quarantine, might was well get more sets in, lol!

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: Wanna Be] #6811473
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Ordering a dozen MB550’s today. With this virus and quarantine, might was well get more sets in, lol!

Yep me too that's what I've been doing everyone else is inside talking about how bad this quarantine is but I see no problems with it so long as I don't run out of gas and traps.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: Wanna Be] #6811750
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Ordering a dozen MB550’s today. With this virus and quarantine, might was well get more sets in, lol!

Im doing the same. Only thing that worries me if they start doing the no leaving your home quarantine. That will suck big time.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6811824
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Ordering a dozen MB550’s today. With this virus and quarantine, might was well get more sets in, lol!

Im doing the same. Only thing that worries me if they start doing the no leaving your home quarantine. That will suck big time.

Well technically I’m working when trapping. Work is allowed from what I’ve seen.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6813043
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As long as they are built to take out of the box and set, I don’t care where they are made. I’m not a “tweaker” lol. Haven’t read about a trap on here yet that doesn’t need some sort of tweak or adjustment in order to set. The only other traps I’ve heard of are maybe Jakes or K9’s. Would like to try those, but when I place an order, I need them ASAP.

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