Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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Exactly, you got it right. It is the Christian thing to do to sacrifice something in order to serve others. Being selfish and saying "I'm going to do X because it is my right" is not being very Christ-like.
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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Exactly, you got it right. It is the Christian thing to do to sacrifice something in order to serve others. Being selfish and saying "I'm going to do X because it is my right" is not being very Christ-like. What about dropping off groceries for a coronavirus patient? What about offering to hold narcotics anonymous in our basement (more than 10 people) because the church that holds it is closed and some of these guys (two of which are in our temporary home church) are on the brink of falling off the wagon? Would that be a good Christian sacrifice, or should those people just suffer so that I don't risk getting sick?
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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so its too dangerous for 3-400 people to gather at fedx?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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so its too dangerous for 3-400 people to gather at fedx? Depends. Do they have a pot luck afterwards?
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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This is just the beginning of this type of dissension/arguments......wait a month or two and see what it is like....
If a addict/drunk is about to use its probably best for their sponsor to meet/stay with them....but ultimately they have to want to do it for themselves/by themselves. Really no need to have 30 people @ a meeting, limit it to 8 or something reasonable where people can keep their distance.
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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Wonder if he needs all those people to come to his mega church so they can put money in the plate when they pass it. Got to keep up with Jim and Tammy Fay. He may need a new caddy or A-C for his hounds dog house. BINGO !!! The entire episode screams SELFISHNESS. Is that what Christianity is all about ?
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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I wonder what some of you would do if the government said you can own guns, just not certain kinds, because they're too dangerous.....or you've gotta give up your guns, it's dangerous and puts other people at risk....you can talk the talk but would you walk the walk? When your rights are put on hold in the name of safety would you stand up and disobey, or shrug your shoulders go along? Whether I own a particular gun or not is no threat to you unless I choose to use it against you. There are already other laws that cover that eventuality..............even if it is a gun approved by the government. The two situations are not comparable at all.
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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Wonder why they dont just issue a royal decree that no one leaves their home, for any reason, for 1 month. Make it legal to shoot anybody you can see outside from your window Would get rid of a lot of homeless people. Virus would be gone after a month. If a month isnt long enough then make it two. Emergency services could deliver sterilized food and water while wearing bio hazard suits.
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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I wonder what some of you would do if the government said you can own guns, just not certain kinds, because they're too dangerous.....or you've gotta give up your guns, it's dangerous and puts other people at risk....you can talk the talk but would you walk the walk? When your rights are put on hold in the name of safety would you stand up and disobey, or shrug your shoulders go along? Goose, that's apples and oranges and different scenarios. Again, wouldn't they do the same if MLB started up a game? You can worship with your family. You can do outreach, pray over peoples homes, take groceries to someone in need, you can do a lot and it be pleasing to God without congregating in numbers. Your routine is shaken, not your freedom or your faith.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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so its too dangerous for 3-400 people to gather at fedx? Maybe could have church at the FedX facility?
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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Wonder why they dont just issue a royal decree that no one leaves their home, for any reason, for 1 month. Make it legal to shoot anybody you can see outside from your window Would get rid of a lot of homeless people. Virus would be gone after a month. If a month isnt long enough then make it two. Emergency services could deliver sterilized food and water while wearing bio hazard suits. Fine by me.
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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When it is against the LAW to spread the gospel, to witness, to preach... to share the word then its wrong. The fact that we are STILL meeting through video and not in person is not against the gospel. Its for the common good of people. I am not going to unnecessary put my family at risk. Why? Because I LOVE them!
We dont have people shutting down FB because of a sermon. We dont have police coming into houses and stealing bibles. We dont have youtube channels of pastors and sermons being blocked. We dont have churches, seminaries being burned because its the gospel. We dont have christians being arrested for being a christian. (of course this is debatable in this thread) Im thinking of china, india, and korea where you DONT HAVE FREEDOM.)
That is an underground church.
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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Just saw on the news tonight where a choir practice was held in Washington on March 10th (before the shelter rule came into effect). Almost all of them ill with the virus now and two deaths. Just breathing and singing next to each other did it.
They don't sing at churches by any chance do they?
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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I think there must be a disconnect between what's "right" and a right. You have the God given right to assemble even if it might not be the right thing to do.
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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The church does have choirs
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Re: Pastor arrested for holding church
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I think there must be a disconnect between what's "right" and a right. You have the God given right to assemble even if it might not be the right thing to do. Agree with this statement.
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