Where are you buying these release ferrules for 1x19 - 3/32" cable?

The snare builder IS STILL AT FAULT I repeatedly explained my problem and he just blew me off. The problem should have been addressed. If there Is a different BAD for 7X7 and a different BAD for 1x19 then I see that as a builder Issue.

And you know he used the wrong BAD how? And you think he's been building snares for that many years and doesn't know the difference? And he offered to change to a more dependable BAD and you didn't let him, instead you keep using the faulty ones?

I'm betting that the manufacture of these BADs Is manufacturing BADs BY CABLE SIZE like for 3 /32 cable and Isn't stating anything about types of cable like 1X19 3/32s versus 7X7X 3/32.

They may very well be the same ferrules but they have to be crimped differently for each type cable, every reputable snare builder knows that. There's a special tool for crimping them. You put them on and crimp them the way the manufacturer says.

You think It's all that easy to chance In mid stream during the season when you call day after day and the individual Is not answering your calls. Sure once the season was over I got In touch and he offered to correct the problem. So problem is the key word here he even admitted to the problem and offered to put a different BAD on my CRs to correct that problem. So If he offered to do that I feel like he knows there Is a problem.

Newt lists different ferrules for each size and type in his site for the sbareshio release ferrules

Thank you.

Here is what I am trying to explain.The 7x7 ferrules are the three loose ones.The 1x19 ferrules are in the unopened bag.It stands to reason-slicker cable needs a longer ferrules and more crimping.The same tool is used for each.7x7,1 crimp,1x19,2 crimps.

I believe the older swager tool needed to be drilled out and the newer,2014 doesn't.

Sounds like you had an entire off-season to get them fixed, but you didn't and you're still bashing him.



That does NOT make the problem HIS fault but as a business man he knows enough to try and please his customers, no matter if it was his fault or the fault of the manufacturer who supplied him with faulty parts or equipment or instructions for use.

Do you have 3/32 7x7 & 1x19 ferrules to compare and snare shop is but one of the manufacturers of release ferrules. There are at least 3 others, maybe they are not made that way. I haven't bought from every manufacturer to see.

ADC,I have only seen Amberg and Snare Shop release ferrules.I don't have or use a 3/32" release ferrule.I thought Snare Shop had them but it looks like Dakotaline and Newt sell the Snare Shop release ferrules.I don't see them listing the one for 3/32",1×19,only the 3/32" version so it looks like you are right and this may be the reason why the builder used what he did.Surely a second one would improve things but no idea how you would know what the poundage was or how you would convince a game warden if you had to.Sorry for any confusion on my part.

That's where I'm at with it too. The only thing you could do is make a bunch of them and send them ND where they test them and see what design works, even then with all the factors in play when actually using them there still would not be any guarantees. The best option would be to obviously switch to the one BAD that has been proven.... but some of us are too stubborn to want change in our old ages, me included.

Me too but I think you are right.

Thanks Taximan that's the info I was looking for.

So ADC know It's my fault the BADs were inferior for that type of cable.

No, not your fault the BADs failed. It was whomever manufactured the BADs and gave your snare builder faulty instillation instructions for building the CRs fault. There is no way for him know they could fail. Like all snare builders we have to assume whoever made the components have tested them and they will work as designed.

It is your fault that you continued to use them after they were proven to have a high % of failures. You could have contacted a different manufacturer and gotten replacements in one or two days. If I couldn't reach the guy who made the CRs you have for whatever reason, and I couldn't fix them acceptably myself, ordering replacements is what I'd have done especially if I were after $100 coyotes for testing. $600-700 in lost coyote will buy a lot of replacement CRs.

I admit, I have always tended to shy away from release ferrules because I didn't understand how to keep them consistent. In my head, I just picture the physics of a break away J to be more reliable. But, like I said, I don't have much experience with release ferrules.

Thanks for posting those pics, that was good info.

For someone new to snaring, this thread is a good reminder. If you start losing catches consistently you need to stop, pull, and come back with a different product. I had a guy asking me similar questions this winter saying, "yep, lost another one today." I had to get pretty snotty and say well then cough up $40 or $60 and order a couple dozen from a different company than you did originally.

There are huge differences in cable too.

Even $20 coyotes can buy a lot of snares. Too bad a low-grade coyote can't pay for a dozen footholds.

Again,I only have real experience with release ferrules on 7x7 but I have found them to be extremely consistent and reliable.One type ferrule,the same crimper on the same cable,it is very consistent.Like I said,never had a coyote pop one,multiple deer did,as well as one,neck caught lion.

I have heard of many instances of J style BADS failing.Think about it.How can anyone make wire THAT consistent? I think it is very hard to do and builders are at the mercy of vendors that may have to get wire from different sources.There must be some more reliable than others.

As I said,I don't have any real 1x19 experience with release ferrules but will be building some before season- 5/64".The good thing about building my own is if they fail,I don't have far to go to point a finger and I can fix a problem,relatively fast.Mine will be made with 1x19 for the noose end, barrel swivel and then 7×7.I will let you know what I find out.For sure,1x19 is more chew resistent.

That's great to know. Like you said, same crimper on same cable with same ferrule...I like that idea. I'm the same way with doing things myself, at least I know who to blame then.

I can see what you're saying about J's too. That makes sense also. Thanks for the info.