Here is a current chart of covid-19 infections. Look at the portion saying 'closed cases'. To me that says these are the people that have either gotten over the virus or died from it. The rest are still infected & the outcome is yet to be determined. The percentage of closed cases that have died (38% & I've been watching that % steadily grow) is very alarming. I don't want to rude here but I've heard all the reasons the death count may not be accurate. Richard has smoked since he was 13 years old, he's now 60 & still smoking, he is probably going to die in the next 5 years anyhow, that death doesn't count. Well, it does to Richard. Anyhow, can someone explain to me how I'm misreading these numbers?

I guess you can read anything you want into it and be right

They want the death rate to appear to be worse than it is. That percentage is basically meaningless. Fear is a great tool to control people. People have been afraid of death every since man was created. Mankind's greatest fear is the unknown.

Maybe but I'm still running my tractor/trailer delivering medical products. Doing it while running team with my beloved co-driver/wife. We are not hunkering in place. I have buddies that have very disgusting knowledge of the situation in NY city. Body bags piled in refrigerator trailers. While you are hunkering in place & complaining there are a heck of a lot of us that are seeing what is really going on and we are terrified. Won't stop us. You just hunker in place & complain.

I don't trust the numbers because
(1) They aren't testing the general public yet so we have no idea who has or had it but was asymptomatic. The number of infected might be 2x, 3x, or 10x what we think it is - which would make the death rate 1/2, 1/3/ or 1/10 what we think it is.
(2) There is a financial incentive for hospitals to report deaths as COVID deaths. I don't think the details are worked out yet but Medicare will be reimbursing hospitals for medical care for uninsured or under insured COVID cases and the two biggest hospital organizations are lobbying congress right now for bail out money.
(3) Now that they've shut everything down, tanked the economy, put people and businesses out of work, and done economic damage that will take years to recover from; there is a real incentive for the government to show that they were right.
(4) Cases are still being diagnosed as COVID from symptoms instead of actual tests. There aren't enough tests yet.

That said, A person hasn't "recovered" for 14 days to 6 weeks after they get put on the "active cases" list. That leaves a lot of people who are sitting home feeling fine but haven't been put on the "recovered" list yet and won't be for weeks. If a person dies, they go on the "deaths" list immediately - death works like that. So, the "deaths" number is going to be inflated for a while simply because it's much quicker to end up on that list.

I don't know if anyone has any idea what the actual numbers are. The general public may never be told.

True.
https://youtu.be/Xbp6umQT58A

First off, you found the best site online for tracking this virus. They do an amazing assembling of data, providing the data is real. On that site, the Chinese are lying about their data, in not reporting their numbers or infections.
The 96,000 figure are the critical cases which have been hospitalized. What you have published is the reality of this virus worldwide. 62% have been discharged after critical care. 38% of died when in ICU. There are those who will try to dismiss the numbers above, but these are real hospital numbers in people diagnosed.

As this has moved into the United States, the current cases are over 2 million worldwide. The current stats are 96% have mild cases and 4% are critical. America has dropped the death rate to 21% now.

I will state what I posted elsewhere in there are different strains of this virus. There is a highly lethal strain and a milder strain. If you look at the Mexican who infected Sioux Falls SD, that was highly contagious. This virus afflicts and kills in different races in different proportions. Mexicans have less ability to handle SARS or Coronavirus. They have lung problems, are overweight and they die from this more readily.
People need to remember in these terms, in your child can contract RSV which is dangerous to them, but if you contract it, it probably will not be anything, but if you spread it to your child, it may kill them.

You are not misreading the numbers. What the problem is Rush Limbaugh told people this was the common cold and the narrative was that this was nothing, and now this site like others is exploding with people typing at each other, as CNN was using this pandemic to try and bring down the President.
Just remember that all the people who are saying this is nothing, numbers have children and grandchildren, who are watching them disregard distancing and hearing them mock this, and those children are going to go back to school, where like in Sioux Falls SD there are numbers of Mexicans who are carrying this flu, touch feces contaminated desks, rails and lunch trays, and most likely contract the worst case, like cholera, and bring that home to their parents and grandparents.
There is a common thread in the majority of these cases. They are in countries which do not have toilet paper, have bad health habits and live on top of each other. What is in nursing homes, but disinfectants trying to deal with old people in diapers with feces leaking out.
This virus is going to settle all the arguments as people contract it in the worst strains.

I have seen studies in animal behavior where wolves and chimps, when the populations get too large, become homicidal in attacking each other, until the population is cropped. Coronavirus is just a part of the cropping and people are featuring the part of attacking each other with relish.

If you are so terrified, why aren't you "hunkered" in.

The people that are terrified of the virus are those in denial.They assuage their fear by saying scientists and healthcare professionals are all lying in some kind of conspiracy to destroy capitalism and install socialism.LOL.
Real tin hat stuff.

Out of.what I wrote you concluded I am hunkering in place??? Now I understand why those percentages confused.you. lol

Robert, I'm not in denial, people will die, might even be me.

I'm still working and my work requires me to travel every week from home and I work in different areas regularly we are essential I guess. If I was terrified about this I'd stay home.

I'm still mad because people didn't take the Y2K bug serious enough. They learned.

New York State is full of BS and lying through their teeth for federal money.

It's real, but we are also being deceived by the media.

Not going to get into the debate about what is real or not but those numbers are misleading. Deaths are pretty easy to count......recovered from hospitals are easy to count but officials recovered from mild positive tests are not. If you look at that web site there are some countries that are not officially tracking recovered. Death rate is nowhere near that percentage for confirmed cases it’s just the percentage of those that are officially recovered. I have been following that websIt’s since the beginning. It is clear all recoveries are not being recorded.

Note to government. Those programable signs i have been reading along the interstate the last two weeks telling drivers on the interstate to stay home. WE ARE NOT AT HOME! Try changing it to something like " practice social distancing since you have to travel." Idiocracy.

Too funny!

I am sorry but I could not help myself today. The wife and I went on a road trip to pick up parts, on the way home we stopped at the local F+F. There were customers in there wearing facemasks and gloves. one had a small bag of dog food, one had 2 6-packs pepsi and one had some light bulbs, I started laughing and couldn't stop, the wife was also amused. So far out here in the sticks the ones most likely wearing masks are the ones most likely not missed. It was like they wanted to show off their masks.

Closed cases = the number of both Death+Recovered. The percentage of death in these figures is just over 5%

sandrarose.com/2020/04/dr-ben-carson-says-98-of-coronavirus-cases-recover-and-we-cant-operate-out-of-hysteria/