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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852261
04/23/20 10:47 AM
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It wouldn't take much for them to deem Biden mentally unfit and then it's a free-for-all at the convention. The controversy would be nominating someone who wasnt on the ballot and has 0 delegates over one of the other candidates. Maybe we haven't seen the last of Bloomberg...

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852284
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If Biden doesn't get enough delegates to win the nomination then it will go to a brokered or contested convention. Then the delegates can go to anyone, my guess Biden will not be the guy.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: Rat Masterson] #6852312
04/23/20 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
If Biden doesn't get enough delegates to win the nomination then it will go to a brokered or contested convention. Then the delegates can go to anyone, my guess Biden will not be the guy.

By my math, Bernie has to sweep the remaining primaries to win the nomination outright.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852324
04/23/20 11:53 AM
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I am pretty sure the rules state that a person needs to be on the ballot in x amount of primaries to be the selected candidate....


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852335
04/23/20 12:03 PM
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I can't imagine why not. I think you should take in a big breath, let half of it out, and gently squeeze thru the.. Wait never mind, Wrong forum. grin


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852341
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Pretty sure Bloomberg didn't raise money from donors yet got on the debate stage cause the Dems. changed the rules.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852344
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I think the CV19 issue is helping Biden hold on to his position. It it weren't for the CV distraction, people would be more aware of his mental issues and they would be actively pursuing a way to replace him at or before the convention. I believe the closer they get to the convention and the election the harder it will be to replace him. That's fine with me though.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852346
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I have a feeling we're gonna find out.

I just watched Biden and Gore doing s video chat and Biden made so little sense that even Gore raised his eyebrows a couple times trying to follow his ramblings.
They can't possibly run him unless they keep everyone penned up until the election.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852359
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I heard they set up a studio in his basement so he could do daily briefings, but they were as terrible as you would expect from someone in his mental state.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852398
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Since Joes brains are away,they will persuade him to pick a vice president of their choosing,then get him to step down shortly after the election,if he wins,then their choice will be president.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: Boco] #6852416
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Originally Posted by Boco
Since Joes brains are away,they will persuade him to pick a vice president of their choosing,then get him to step down shortly after the election,if he wins,then their choice will be president.


He can't even do that himself, said he's putting together a committee to pick one. I kid you not.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852454
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Technically yes, in modern practice no. Or least not without major intraparty restructuring.

Conventions, primaries nor even parties are not constitutional entities.

Parties arose early reflecting divisions within our founders, most notably the federalists Madison and Adams and anti federalists Jefferson. Washington opposed factionalism and spoke out against it even within his own administration as both Jefferson and Adams held key positions.

Conventions and party tickets arose following the contested Jefferson / Burr tie that roiled the house and led to changes in how the president is elected. In those days all candidates ran for president with the one garnering the most becoming president and secondmost vice president. This could have resulted in bitter enemies (pre party) in these two offices so in practice candidates would chose an ally to run with them to take the second spot. That was the plan in the Jefferson/Adams race, Burr was to place second but instead he swung a vote to tie with Jefferson then refused to concede. This led to a party slate of president/vice president.

Primaries came early for the various states parties elect delegates to the party convention but inevitably back room brokered conventions resulted leading to party rules making the primary the determining action with the delegates being bound to a particular candidate. However, even today the delegates are free to choose the party candidate of their choice if a majority of bound delegates is not achieved. Though there are specific rules governing how that can come about. Each party sets their own rules on how this process happens.

BTW, primaries are not required as many third parties lack the numbers to hold state primaries. Most do use the convention process though while others merely name a candidate.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852461
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I suspect there may not be any conventions. They will use the virus as a reason to cancel them. That will work right into the effort to vote by mail. If that is imposed, all election integrity will be gone forever.....and of course that is what they are after. Fraud will be the order of the day


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852474
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I just hope and pray for 4 more years of Trump. Anything else we go backwards as a country.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6852477
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
They won't dump Biden
unless he allows it to happen or he becomes incapacitated.


Waddya Mean........BECOMES INCAPACITATED ?

Biden's already incapacitated !!!! laugh

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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: walleyed] #6852479
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
They won't dump Biden
unless he allows it to happen or he becomes incapacitated.


Waddya Mean........BECOMES INCAPACITATED ?

Biden's already incapacitated !!!! laugh

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In this case it means adjudicated that he is incapacitated, either mentally or physically.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852572
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The parties can pick whoever they want. Each party comes up with internal rules for choosing the candidate but those rules aren't legally binding. At the last minute, the DNC can throw out all the ballots and just pick someone else if they want - and that's what they are going to do this time.

Biden is a place holder. I don't know if that was the plan all along but there is no way they are going to run him in the real election. I have been predicting all along that Michelle Obama will be the actual candidate. I thought she would have announced her candidacy just before Super Tuesday but she didn't. Biden has announced that his running mate will be a woman. I still think Michelle is a possibility but others are too. At the last minute, Biden will announce that he's having some memory issues and has decided to step down. The DNC will announce that the only "obvious" choice is Biden's running mate. And abracadabra They get to run the person of their choice without needing any pesky primary voters telling them who to run.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852613
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there are no hard and fast rules for Democrats.

when Bob Torricelli (D-NJ) got his [breast] in a wringer over campaign finance shenanigans before the 2002 NJ Senate race, Democrats got an election judge to excuse the deadline for getting names on the ballot, just so they wouldn't lose the seat to his Republican opponent.

Frank Lautenberg was [illegally] placed on the ballot at the last minute; and since he was a Democrat in NJ, he won the election.

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852709
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Corona is great for Biden he may get away without debating Trump. He has a mental problem and Dems are just hoping he can pull it off to get a VP they want. Then he will be deemed unfit. IMHO

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852735
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Michelle Obama now has the cushy rich life she always knew she deserved. I don't think she is about to leave all that for a real job.

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