Re: Schooling online
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04/22/20 08:40 PM
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The fact that so many parents are grounded right now probably helps too. And the quality of the parent doing the teaching and disciplining.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 08:20 AM
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Each family should decide what is best for them and their children.
Personally....I want my kids in a traditional school. I want them to have face to face social interactions and competition. I do not want them to grow into basement dwellers being conditioned to stare at screens.
I know plenty of people that did fantastic with home schooling and had great childhoods. However....they never really seemed to take off as adults.
Granted.....this is only anecdotal. "On line" could never replace the value of a class room setting, but not having it as part of a complete education plan is delaying the inevitable.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 08:25 AM
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I have a daughter that was taking in-person classes and was switched to online classes like everyone else. The classes are going terrible, she is an engineering major and the Profs that tried to keep teaching had a very hard time accomplishing anything worth while. Many just quit doing anything, several she did not hear from for weeks and then they just ended the class. She had an internship lined up for this summer and they called her on Friday and asked her to report for her internship on Sunday because it was a high need area making medical supplies.
Sounds like maybe the profs were looking for a coronavirus holiday like so many others. Conversely, my young lady wrapped up 3rd year of a psych specialist program at a major Canadian university on line and it was well organized and successful. In fact, her summer work, serving in the food industry is on hold and to make best use of her time she's signed up for 2 on line summer courses.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 08:52 AM
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I have taught University level adult education....in face.....and online.......and in my experience.......how well online works depends entirely on how the course is setup and delivered. It is the difference between reading a bullet point outline......and watching someone explain the same concept via a 15 minute youtube video.......and then what happens next......students have to apply what they have just learned......with a feedback loop.
Putting together an effective online course takes a great deal of time and requires an in depth understanding of how people learn.......and their learning styles.......and online education caters to all of them...all learning styles....so that at the end, they get it. Done right......it is effective and everybody gets it. At least the same number as would "get it" in a face to face classroom.
The social aspect is real, but can also be incorporated into online. Most isn't, however.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 09:07 AM
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Yesterday a densely populated region near here lost internet connections from overload. I hope hospitals and doctors and such (T1, T3?) connections are separate from this.
I'm all for it and reduced tax burden, and am not going to poke this Tman hornet nest lol.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 09:11 AM
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My daughter set up the online learning for her school, grade 4, She incorporated many techniques and activities and the kids are doing very well, better then the other 4th grade teachers who can't seem to get it together and are "confused" by the process, even though it's so simple even a 4th grader can do it, lol. The parents are happy because they're not home schooling. These kids get the computer stuff, as long as the courses are properly set up, I think it will become an important tool in the future and probably sooner then you'd think. The kids who miss out the most will be in the sports teams, but this lockdown won't last forever.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 09:23 AM
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There is a lot of homeschooling where I live , and has been for a long time.. I have seen the products of that, including one of my own, and with the exception of one kid,all are light years ahead of their peers as adults.
The key, IMO, is having the discipline to keep at it and a structured schedule just like a normal school day. I hope this works out well and I believe it CAN for most students. It would be a wonderful thing....again IMO...to move completely away from public schools. It would also be a benefit to re-involve parents in their kids' lives. A huge complication is going to be single-parent households. It seems to me that public schools have become nothing more than day-care facilities.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 09:37 AM
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I completed my associates degree with a blend of on-line and in-classroom courses. I am currently taking an EMT-B training course that was transferred from a classroom to an on-line format.
Personally, the only value I see in the classroom setting is that it helps force regular participation and helps keep the student working steadily on a schedule. With the on-line classes there can be a tendency to procrastinate and do everything at the last minute.
Other than that, I think the learning through on-line classes is just as effective or even more effective than the classroom courses. The classroom and face-to-face time with the teacher is largely a waste of my time. I can learn faster and better by keeping my head in the textbook and completing homework and quizzez on my own.
When I completed my CPCU coursework, I did unguided self-study for several of the courses. It worked out well, too. All I had to do was order the books and show up to take the exam at a specific date/time. It was a three hour exam where you had to answer nine of ten questions in an essay format. There was no internet at that time and having no instructor at all made no difference to me.
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Re: Schooling online
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04/23/20 09:49 AM
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I completed my associates degree with a blend of on-line and in-classroom courses. I am currently taking an EMT-B training course that was transferred from a classroom to an on-line format.
Personally, the only value I see in the classroom setting is that it helps force regular participation and helps keep the student working steadily on a schedule. With the on-line classes there can be a tendency to procrastinate and do everything at the last minute.
Other than that, I think the learning through on-line classes is just as effective or even more effective than the classroom courses. The classroom and face-to-face time with the teacher is largely a waste of my time. I can learn faster and better by keeping my head in the textbook and completing homework and quizzez on my own.
When I completed my CPCU coursework, I did unguided self-study for several of the courses. It worked out well, too. All I had to do was order the books and show up to take the exam at a specific date/time. It was a three hour exam where you had to answer nine of ten questions in an essay format. There was no internet at that time and having no instructor at all made no difference to me. Yes but try to apply this to elementary, middle school, high school, Most kids aren't doing crap !!!!!!!!!!!
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