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Speed Dip Process #6854063
04/24/20 08:20 PM
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I'm trying Speed Dip... just because ... because I had it in my shed for years.

What is the process?
Boil traps in water, and then dip in speed dip ?? That's all ???
No wax, or dye ??

Just 1 or 2 coats of stinky gas speed dip ???


Just a weekend trapper...
Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854071
04/24/20 08:34 PM
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I have never used it but a friend did and he caught predators. Only one dip for him. I was there when he did some and I couldn't get past the smell and the mess he made. I still she and wax because I have it.


Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854107
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I cant speak for speed dip personally but if its anything like Dakotaline snare dip it works great until its exposed to freezing temps then its ruined. I tried some that had been in my shed after cold temps were over. No good.

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Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854132
04/24/20 10:03 PM
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You'll have this how to post now then the "how do I remove speed dip?" post in the fall. lol

Seriously though there should be directions on the can, however I always added an extra can of gas to mine. I prefered gas without ethanol, no need to buy expensive white gas (Coleman fuel), IMO. Just wash off the traps let em dry and dip them once, no soaking or anything, dip them in, pull them out and hang them to (hopefully) dry to a hard slick finish. This was black Andy Stoe's.... and over 15 years ago.

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854161
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Originally Posted by Short Track
I'm trying Speed Dip... just because ... because I had it in my shed for years.

What is the process?
Boil traps in water, and then dip in speed dip ?? That's all ???
No wax, or dye ??

Just 1 or 2 coats of stinky gas speed dip ???

I use two gallons(or 2.5 if you want it thinner) of high octane gas(like 93 or better) or colman fuel, per quart of dip. I put it all in a 5 gallon bucket with a sealable lid. I would NOT stir it with an electric or battery powered drill! (Might go kaboom). I use a trap stake to stir it.
Degrease your traps, dip(use rubber gloves), i hang mine in a covered but open lean-to off my shop. dip traps EARLY (as in before July, earlier is better). Let hang all summer in the open air.
If you get dip on you, WD-40 will take it off your skin


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Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854181
04/24/20 11:39 PM
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I boil em. Rinse with cold water. Dip em. Hang em up to dry. Usually have to file or scratch off end of dog and pan notch. Vinegar and water mix will take it off.

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: ~ADC~] #6854307
04/25/20 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
You'll have this how to post now then the "how do I remove speed dip?" post in the fall. lol

Seriously though there should be directions on the can, however I always added an extra can of gas to mine. I prefered gas without ethanol, no need to buy expensive white gas (Coleman fuel), IMO. Just wash off the traps let em dry and dip them once, no soaking or anything, dip them in, pull them out and hang them to (hopefully) dry to a hard slick finish. This was black Andy Stoe's.... and over 15 years ago.



I really do not understand why there is such a wide spread of opinions on this topic. I have talked to in person or via private mail with guys that swear the have good luck with fuel based cold dip. I have also talked with guys that swear against it.

The guys that like it have told me to mix it a lot thinner than what directions say.

A friend from the middle of the country told me that he does not always have to dip some traps every year, if they are not beat up or did not make a catch.
Just curious.
mac



Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854330
04/25/20 09:27 AM
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Good advice Mac.
The stuff works...few things ....take the extra time to thoroughly clean traps....check the spring holes and knock the extra mud and debris out. Modified traps are great but extra crud often gets left in those little crevices on the 4 coil kits, base plates and jaw add ons...check those closely. If you don’t you’ll have a build up of dip adhere to that gunk and create possible odor issues.
And finally I advise going thin on your dip...a 5 parts Coleman (or the generic off brand version) to a single can of dip. Here’s a tip....rinse your Speed Dip (or Kaatz Bros. Dip) can out with Coleman’s each time you pour into your bucket/container. You’ll get a bit more out the can as there sometimes globs/chunks of dip that may get thrown away.
These instructions are for land trapping as for as water trapping....anything goes...odors not a factor.

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: MChewk] #6854498
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MChewk, your the friend! Thanks for joining this. Always appreciate you input and sharing.
Mac



Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854517
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No problem Mac...always like to help and ....these are just my findings....what I do.

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854539
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Ok, since it was brought up, how do remove speed dip? Bought some used 120s and they were dipped in that nasty sticky stuff.

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6854607
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Soak the dipped traps in Coleman’s until shiney....rinse....done

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6855523
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I've used it for several years, I mix mine thin, 3 gl of non ethinal gas to two quarts of speed dip into a 5 gal bucket. The way I do it it does not put a very thick coat as mixing it thicker but it lasts for 2 years use.
I havn't had any problems with coyotes avoiding the dipped traps. I just dipped 15 doz MB 550's and 5 doz Bridger #3's, Hang them up outside for the summer

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6857126
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Do you have to clean any gunk of the dogs once dipped?

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6857274
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I appreciate the guys that use dip that stepped up and answered some questions.
I know some guys do not like it, that is fine.

But those that do, have shared helpful information. And that is not always easy on this forum. There are always the sexual intellectuals that have to leap on something they know little about and throw their two cents in. I know ADC does not like speed dip, but he is never a butt hole about differences of opinion.
What the sexual intellectuals (in field we called them F&&&@@2 know it alls) do not realize is that over a very short time they are recognized for what they are.
Lots of very good and very experienced trapped have walked away because of the butt holes.

I mention this on this post for a reason. I often hear through private mail from a lot of good trappers that have stopped sharing on subjects simply because of the smart A&& attitudes on here.

I am darn sure glad for the guys that post and offer their advice.

Mac



Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6857278
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Do you have to clean any gunk of the dogs once dipped?


If you dip in a thin mixture, and you hang the traps ups with the dog facing out or down no. If it builds up, scrape it off just like you would with wax that has accumulated.

A good friend has given me a tip that others might like, some may not.
He is an outstanding canine and all around trapper. He has been a dipper for years. He dips them, hangs them up and runs a leaf blower over them to get the drips off. It sounds like a good tip to me.

(He is an amazing bobcat trapper. I have tried to get him to do an interview for an article. He wants no part of it. LOL He is becoming more old school all the time. LOL
I say that because he has made fun of my old fashioned ways.)
Mac



Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6857280
04/28/20 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Do you have to clean any gunk of the dogs once dipped?


Yes when you hang them up a drop sometimes forms on the end of the dog
Adding to Chewks post excessive rust on traps give less desirable results as does dipping in cool wet weather
It's not a magical formula that gives perfect results if you dont use your head


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Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6857311
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if its frozen a time or 2 in NY winters, its trash BUT if kept indoors it'd be ok to use.
Also, I stopped wasting time and $$ dying land traps several yrs ago and wax only. But, water traps get the acetone/rustoleum dip only.
Did ya know we have this place with tons of info? : https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/13/1/trap-preparation-archives
hope this helps a bit more


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Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: traprjohn] #6857335
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
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if its frozen a time or 2 in NY winters, its trash BUT if kept indoors it'd be ok to use.
Also, I stopped wasting time and $$ dying land traps several yrs ago and wax only. But, water traps get the acetone/rustoleum dip only.
Did ya know we have this place with tons of info? : https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/13/1/trap-preparation-archives
hope this helps a bit more


Unleaded gas vs. Coleman fuel. In this archive, one individual said he prefers regular gas over Coleman fuel. He felt regular gas coated better and smoother and not blotchy or goopy like Coleman fuel did. Anybody notice this?

Re: Speed Dip Process [Re: Short Track] #6857368
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Cheap paint thinner, a semi-stiff paint brush and a minute per trap is all I used to get Stoe’s dip off. I’ve since gone to spray painting for color and full metal jacket.


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