I noticed Dogless traps are a little more expensive. Like Dogless bridgers run about a dollar more than there dogged traps. I was wondering what advantages there are to a Dogless trap? If any. I like the dogged traps cause seems screen wire sits better on them.

Less chance of the dog kicking the foot out of the trap was the trap closes. I've recently picked up a few Bridger dogless traps to try out.

There is no dead spot on the dogless trap. Enough pressure on any part of the pan on the dogless will fire the trap. The dog is a dead spot on a dog on trap.

I run plenty of dog on traps but love my dogless. Pans generally set lower and I get some pretty deep catches. Montana’s, jakes, sterlings, 650s, Vic/Monty’s and bridger dogless.

I personally don't like dogless traps. I do make the exception for the ts-85.

But to your question I can't see any disadvantages with a dogless trap just my personal preference is dog on.

I've never seen any animal caught with it's leg all the way to the side of the trap like that. Pretty amazing!

Just a question. You are considering the 650s dogless? I would have said the 650s and 750s were dogged traps, they don't have the traditional over jaw dog, but they do have a dog that holds the jaws down and the pan up, that then flips up when the pan is depressed. Side note, my 750s have a worse deadspot than any other traps I own. I don't own or have ever used any dogless traps unless you consider the mb650 and mb 750 traps dogless. Nothing against them, just most of my traps are old traps I have had for years and many were my fathers before me, made before the dogless designs became popular. I can't really comment on the advantages of dogless since I've never used them, but I've never had a problem with dog on designs or seen any evidence of a dog flipping a critters foot out.

i'm getting old and the traps get stronger every year pressing down on the dog lets me get that last little bit of the jaw down

It gets worse left lane. Some I can’t explain like the double back foot male and the crawler. Dog on bridger 3s.

The crawler would be a rolling response my guess and some of the other really deep catches

The ones caught deep in the corner are in slanted trench sets. 99% are either caught like that or double front footed. That ankle catch was at a pipe set and I’ve seen quite a bit of rolling on my pipes while testing lures. You might be right yes sir.

Fewer misses, no dead spot, screen. But I prefer the tension to be adjustable with a tension screw that stays were I adjust it. Great examples Yoteguts. Double back paw? weird.

The Bridger dogless traps do have adjustable tension pans.

Don't the dogless Bridgers also have a bigger pan, makes for a bigger Target area. All I run are the dogless Bridgers and the K.O. Extremes. Don't plan on ever going back to dog on traps.

True but I was referencing Montanas, old Monties and Vic Monties , etc. ..Dogless Bridgers do have a bigger pan than most. I prefer the pan to be below jaw level. More screen friendly.

Look to me Rob he was tring show you what he thought of you,, but you got the last laugh nicely done.

Yep Red. The top one got a collar and released. The bottom one got a ride in my truck. LOL

That will teach him lol

With dog less traps you don't ever have to plan for this;

Is that a mb or a duke? Just curious.

Looks like a Minnesota brand to me ???

But again could be a duke
But if it was a victor Monty there be none of that

MB 550. I had a chain about 20 inches long. to be fair If I used a chain 12'' long or shorter or a chain 30'' long I never got this problem. 5 out of the first dozen I had.

How???

Or maybe What?

Why is your trap on top of your partner's head???

There isn’t always no dead spot on dogless traps what makes them free of dead spot is when the pivot point on the pan is under or outside of the jaws ! Mb 650 and mb750 and bridger do have a dead spot. I can’t remember the others. The Montana and Montgomery have no dead spot!