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Dogless traps #6859307
04/30/20 01:17 PM
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I noticed Dogless traps are a little more expensive. Like Dogless bridgers run about a dollar more than there dogged traps. I was wondering what advantages there are to a Dogless trap? If any. I like the dogged traps cause seems screen wire sits better on them.

Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859317
04/30/20 01:25 PM
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Less chance of the dog kicking the foot out of the trap was the trap closes. I've recently picked up a few Bridger dogless traps to try out.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859340
04/30/20 01:52 PM
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There is no dead spot on the dogless trap. Enough pressure on any part of the pan on the dogless will fire the trap. The dog is a dead spot on a dog on trap.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859467
04/30/20 06:03 PM
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JMO you can make a traditional trap perform like a dogless but it takesa bit of tuning and guiding therefore the dogless traps are a little more forgiving and seeing a greater demand.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859487
04/30/20 06:16 PM
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I run plenty of dog on traps but love my dogless. Pans generally set lower and I get some pretty deep catches. Montana’s, jakes, sterlings, 650s, Vic/Monty’s and bridger dogless.
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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859491
04/30/20 06:19 PM
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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859564
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I personally don't like dogless traps. I do make the exception for the ts-85.

But to your question I can't see any disadvantages with a dogless trap just my personal preference is dog on.

Re: Dogless traps [Re: yoteguts] #6859577
04/30/20 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
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I've never seen any animal caught with it's leg all the way to the side of the trap like that. Pretty amazing!

Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859647
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Just a question. You are considering the 650s dogless? I would have said the 650s and 750s were dogged traps, they don't have the traditional over jaw dog, but they do have a dog that holds the jaws down and the pan up, that then flips up when the pan is depressed. Side note, my 750s have a worse deadspot than any other traps I own. I don't own or have ever used any dogless traps unless you consider the mb650 and mb 750 traps dogless. Nothing against them, just most of my traps are old traps I have had for years and many were my fathers before me, made before the dogless designs became popular. I can't really comment on the advantages of dogless since I've never used them, but I've never had a problem with dog on designs or seen any evidence of a dog flipping a critters foot out.

Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6859757
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i'm getting old and the traps get stronger every year pressing down on the dog lets me get that last little bit of the jaw down


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6860334
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Yoteguts you should do demonstrations on getting them to commit! Wow.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6860367
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It gets worse left lane. Some I can’t explain like the double back foot male and the crawler. Dog on bridger 3s.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6860384
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The crawler would be a rolling response my guess and some of the other really deep catches

Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6860431
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The ones caught deep in the corner are in slanted trench sets. 99% are either caught like that or double front footed. That ankle catch was at a pipe set and I’ve seen quite a bit of rolling on my pipes while testing lures. You might be right yes sir.




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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6860506
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Fewer misses, no dead spot, screen. But I prefer the tension to be adjustable with a tension screw that stays were I adjust it. Great examples Yoteguts. Double back paw? weird.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: trappergbus] #6860509
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
Fewer misses, no dead spot, screen. But I prefer the tension to be adjustable with a tension screw that stays were I adjust it. Great examples Yoteguts. Double back paw? weird.

The Bridger dogless traps do have adjustable tension pans.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6861125
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Don't the dogless Bridgers also have a bigger pan, makes for a bigger Target area. All I run are the dogless Bridgers and the K.O. Extremes. Don't plan on ever going back to dog on traps.

Re: Dogless traps [Re: Swamp Wolf] #6861141
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
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Fewer misses, no dead spot, screen. But I prefer the tension to be adjustable with a tension screw that stays were I adjust it. Great examples Yoteguts. Double back paw? weird.

The Bridger dogless traps do have adjustable tension pans.

True but I was referencing Montanas, old Monties and Vic Monties , etc. ..Dogless Bridgers do have a bigger pan than most. I prefer the pan to be below jaw level. More screen friendly.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: yoteguts] #6861280
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
It gets worse left lane. Some I can’t explain like the double back foot male and the crawler. Dog on bridger 3s.


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Re: Dogless traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6861286
05/02/20 12:23 PM
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Yep Red. The top one got a collar and released. The bottom one got a ride in my truck. LOL

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