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Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
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05/05/20 11:13 AM
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The Hill Country of Texas
Leftlane
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Ok, I just got to thinking which can of course be painful. I may owe some of the Canadians an apology for the hypocritical stance(s) I have been taking. In my mind, I was helping them out by "sprinkling wisdom" on any and all of the mass shooting / Canadian gun law threads but here is the kicker: Each and every time someone from Virginia or Oregon (basically from any state or country more than a few hundred miles away from the US/ Mexican border) expresses their opinion on what we should or should not do / built / or implement on the southern border that I work on so often, I instantly roll my eyes and think out loud STHU what would you know about human trafficking, drug mules manipulated, controlled, and often taken advantage of in the worst ways by the cartels that absolutely do NOT embrace the thought of competition.
They will kill any and all of the 2 legged coyotes who cuts their rate, try to go around them and not pay heavy tolls, or God forbid treat the 'peons' with respect and dignity. They will then rape and torture his 'clients' and leave them butchered for the next man on horseback checking cattle to find. As a property adjuster I am occasionally assigned the fire claim after a safe house has been burned because it was compromised and the working poor illegal immigrants inside have been executed so there is zero chance they will testify against this type of organized crime and the local factions of the cartel (think mayors, bankers, and even some LEOs). The billions of dollars the drug and human trafficking generates every year pave the way for a tangled web of corruption much farther into the US than you can possibly realize and it isn't like CNN or YouTube is going to give you a clear view of what is actually going on here. They are stuck in either wall to wall impeachment, Cheeto Man bad, or we are all going to die from a virus mode.
So here is me saying sorry and semi publicly inviting Boco, Rvsask, or any other Canadian who thinks some daggum Texan doesn't really have enough information to form an opinion about their laws and freedoms to solve the border issue for us (me). Yall keyboard karate experts with frost bit melons from upper NY state and 'Minesooooda' can join in too LOL. Uppers have opinions on everything so lets here it.  Turn about is fair play and go!
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 11:53 AM
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Marty
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It sucks to have the citizens of the country to the north of us lose their freedom.......mexicans lost theirs a while ago with the exception of the ones who fought with the texicans and stayed in Texas.
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Sleep, the anti woke adote.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 12:07 PM
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Leftlane
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Marty, the information that is missing from the political debates in DC or on the evening news is that folks are still basically fighting for our freedom down here... the corruption dollars generate by the drug trade and human trafficking are far reaching and designed to keep us silent and in line.
Look up 'silver or lead'- it might be easy for all of us to grandstand about moral codes, character, and swearing an oath to protect and serve; but I myself have never had to face the nightmare decision that is basically "accept our pay off or you may end up with a child or wife (or both) who never makes it back home some afternoon while you are at work".
I hope none of you ever face that decision either but it's how all things Cartel get done on both sides of the border until we stop it and it is probably not going to change anytime soon.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 02:48 PM
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Build the wall,,and if ya don't like that,,youl get a trailer park ninja halfe cocked judy chop.
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 03:20 PM
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Good post. I cannot comment on your border, all I know is from media and 1000's of miles away. I'm aware that the constant illegal immigration and the Mexican Cartels are a big issue, we are informed of that but to suggest a solution is not reasonable.
I do indeed think though, that political partisanship has a tendency to cloud people's perceptions on issues, all people.
I could go on and on as a person that is in the middle about the gun ban, I see many terrible aspects of it, but as you know, with me it isn't as simple as black and white always so I try find pros and cons to each side and their ideas. So far up here, I'm disappointed in both sides.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
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05/05/20 03:32 PM
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Good post. I cannot comment on your border, all I know is from media and 1000's of miles away. I'm aware that the constant illegal immigration and the Mexican Cartels are a big issue, we are informed of that but to suggest a solution is not reasonable.
I do indeed think though, that political partisanship has a tendency to cloud people's perceptions on issues, all people.
I could go on and on as a person that is in the middle about the gun ban, I see many terrible aspects of it, but as you know, with me it isn't as simple as black and white always so I try find pros and cons to each side and their ideas. So far up here, I'm disappointed in both sides. Pretty much nipples on a boar hog.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 05:05 PM
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Slavery is alive and well in all states. Sex trafficking, indentured, and otherwise. Current stats say 300,000 humans in some form of bondage in Texas alone. Biggest weekend for sex trafficking each year is Super Bowl weekend.
There is much work left to do.
Anytime someone promotes reparation for past wrongs in the U.S.A., I ask them what are they doing right now?
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 05:30 PM
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Canada is like America's attic.ya forget it's even there but every once in a while its fun to go up and see all the nice stuff up there.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 05:48 PM
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Ilived and worked in Texas for a few years,,so even though Im from NY,I have a pretty good handle on what goes on down there.BUILD THE WALL. Its not just Mexicans crossing that boarder either.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/05/20 06:57 PM
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Spent a few months working in BIg Bend back in college, but otherwise I've lived up against the northern border, so don't know anything about your border issues beyond the news and what I learned when I was down there. But given the history of the drug trade and human trafficking on the southern border, I have a hard time believing most of the proposed solution, like a wall are going to do much of anything unless we go with a full on, militarized border and agressive rooting out of cooperation from our side.
Adaptation has been the name of the game for the cartels and coyotes since day one. If there's demand for the product and a snowflakes chance in **** of getting it into the US, it's going to happen. I have no idea what the solutions would look like, seems like folks living on it would have the best insight.
You guys live in a different world down there, you can feel life slanting away from the rest of the country into someplace else in a way I've never felt in any other part of the US.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
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05/05/20 07:16 PM
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Canada is like America's attic.ya forget it's even there but every once in a while its fun to go up and see all the nice stuff up there. Like this comparison. Same as Wisconsin being Illinois' favorite state park.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: dkrug]
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05/05/20 10:27 PM
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What would you do to change things if you had the power? Vote out everyone that wants to turn us into a socialist country.
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Re: Canadian gun laws vs the Southern Border.
[Re: Leftlane]
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05/06/20 11:12 AM
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[quote=dkrug] What wous Then I had a property claim for a man who worked on the border- he had been an agent for 20 yrs and he ask me some questions that still make chills run up my spine. He said imagine being assigned to night duty on a lonely stretch of road where almost nothing ever happened and imagine being contacted off duty by a man who knew your wifes name and what time she came home for lunch. Imagine him being able to recite your children's names, ages, and what schools they went to and then imagine him informing you of how much money was in a brown paper sack he was going to give you each and every night you let a certain semi truck pass w/o checking it thoroughly. Of course, I thought I had the answer. I said I would go straight to my supervisor and report it. He said yeah, that might work so long as you could be 100% sure it wasn't your supervisor who turned the guy onto you in the first place. After all, who better to know when and where you would be working in the coming weeks and months. That is when the chills ran up my spine and my right hand developed some shaking. It still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck just to think of that type of scenario. The cartels call it 'silver or lead'- take our bribe of we make an example out of your wife and children for all to see. [/font]  I appreciate you being honest instead of a bs answer. Like Danny Clifton, I've covered a lot of North America in a truck with multiple ;border crossings. BTDT got the T-shirt. 5 provinces to the North & into Mexico. I'm familiar with the checks & heat signature equipment on both borders. For instance, when stopped at a check point, they ask " who's in the bunk?" ; not "do you have a passenger?" I may have been an unaware mule myself. It's like an underground railroad that follows the horses & produce. (extra grooms) will often catch a ride from Delmar in San Diego to the Golden Gate in San Francisco in overnight racehorse shuttles. They recruit relentlessly & it's very difficult to stay out of it. Brownsville, Laredo, McAllen, Nogales, Yuma, San Diego & up the California coast. A truck with (Yankee) license plates , that shows up weekly; is recruited weekly. Mark June made the understatement of the year; " There is much work left to do."
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