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Re: Fair? [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #6866422
05/08/20 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
my dad had this happen twice , with two piece's of property , he won both times , how much land do you have behind him ? is it worth your trouble and time an money ? good luck


It’s only 18 acres. No doubt I am going to have to invest, the question becomes, do I invest in my future or their misery?


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Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866426
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Get your right of way established or the property is pretty much worthless.

Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866428
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


I do, however the county told me they won’t get involved because it’s a civil matter. I should contact an attorney and have them send them a notice I will be using the access. Hopefully when they show it to their attorney, the attorney will advise them they will lose and to just grant me access.
I’m curious what will happen if I just drive the access and tell them to call the sheriff if they have a problem. I have the survey and it clearly notes a road that they have eliminated.


Your tax money hard at work aka what awesome service.

Keep on trucking but millions on welfare millions on welfare + every last one of the entrenched bureaucrats are depending on you Comrade


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Re: Fair? [Re: hippie] #6866431
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Originally Posted by hippie
Get your right of way established or the property is pretty much worthless.


There is no such thing as landlocked in Maryland.


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Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866434
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So you can get to this property a different way?

Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866438
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Invest in your future, not his misery. It is a legal matter and should be handled that way.

Re: Fair? [Re: hippie] #6866440
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Originally Posted by hippie
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So you can get to this property a different way?


No, that is the access but nobody will enforce it without exchange of money, ie attorney fees, court cost. lol

However, a 1.2 million dollar proposed project that will generate tax revenue and they will not only define the road but will pave it as well. lol


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Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866458
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Reminds me of a fear thy neighbor episode I watched the other day.

Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866464
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I'd spend my money on a surveyor and then a free call to the sheriff.

Re: Fair? [Re: Diggerman] #6866470
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
I'd spend my money on a surveyor and then a free call to the sheriff.


I spent $900.00 to prove to another neighbor that his stand was on the wrong property. I’m about over neighbors and trying to be neighborly.


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Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866500
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Maybe I missed it, but why do you feel you need to retain a lawyer ahead of time. If you have an easement, continue to use it to access your property. Don't do anything nefarious to harrass the other guy or screw with his hunting. Maybe you have to cut some firewood during deer season if he gives you problems.

But if you have an easement and can prove it, I don't see why you need to pay an attorney to prove it to the other guy. Go about your business.

Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866507
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Good luck. We had a recorded easement that went across a established pond dam. New owner tore out the dam. He's in bankruptcy now and here we sit 2 years later and can't go to trial till it's either sold or settled. There are (I'm told) three different classes of egress and ingress here. We are supposed to have the cadillac easement. He had bad lawyer advice.

Re: Fair? [Re: tlguy] #6866512
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Originally Posted by tlguy
Maybe I missed it, but why do you feel you need to retain a lawyer ahead of time. If you have an easement, continue to use it to access your property. Don't do anything nefarious to harrass the other guy or screw with his hunting. Maybe you have to cut some firewood during deer season if he gives you problems.

But if you have an easement and can prove it, I don't see why you need to pay an attorney to prove it to the other guy. Go about your business.


Because they turned the road into their front yard. I checked with the county to verify the road on the deed in fact was correct. I explained what has taken place and was informed if explaining it to them wasn’t accepted then I would need to take legal action as driving across their yard would appear to be just that and the sheriff would not enforce my right even with the survey map and deed showing a road.


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Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866515
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What would the sheriff do to you if you drove on your easement to access your property?

If I was in your shoes I would continue to use the easement, maybe more so on rainy, muddy days, and if the neighbor pushes the issue and the sheriff gets involved, worst case scenario you get a ticket and a guaranteed court date to put it to rest.

Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866516
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It didn’t help the county agent was saying, “I’m sure they are loving it. Cutting off the road, living peacefully at “the end” of the road, probably hunting your property, treating it like it is theirs.” lol

If I have to pay a surveyor, as soon as the line against them is established I’m falling trees along that line to the point a 12 foot Indian won’t be able to see their property.


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Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866523
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cost me about 7000 to shut everybody up Hobbie here,but worth every penny now.i feel for ya and wish a good resolution for ya.









Re: Fair? [Re: pcr2] #6866550
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You might want to do something pretty soon Hobbie,if you're state laws are like Missouri's. The fence laws here have a provision in it about "squatters rights basically ". I wouldn't let it go very long before I addressed it in some fashion. It's a shame that you're neighbor is an a-hole but some people you just can't be nice too.

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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by hippie
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So you can get to this property a different way?


No, that is the access but nobody will enforce it without exchange of money, ie attorney fees, court cost. lol

However, a 1.2 million dollar proposed project that will generate tax revenue and they will not only define the road but will pave it as well. lol


Gotcha.

You really have no choice then. I'd visit them one more time, this time to explain that we either agree to something or they better get their wallet out too, because the lawyers will be sending letters.I

Like I said above, your property value is nill if you can't get to it, even tho the deed says you can.

Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866570
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


If I have to pay a surveyor, as soon as the line against them is established I’m falling trees along that line to the point a 12 foot Indian won’t be able to see their property.


Just how tall is a 12 foot Indian, anyways ? laugh

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Re: Fair? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6866577
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