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Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: The Beav] #6871796
05/13/20 08:59 PM
05/13/20 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
If you have read Charlie Dobbins book on trap adjustment you would see that when the springs got weak on his coil springs he only replaced one spring.
Once the jaws are closed the leavers have created LOCK UP and the springs are not a factor any more. So I don't see where the single spring side Is going to act any different then the doubled spring side. The single sprung side Is not lagging behind when the trap Is closing.

How can it not lag behind, it has less spring pressure. Seems like I need to do some testing. May just have to video it. The way I figure it I will be able to show that one lever will reach the top first and the foot of the animal will act like a pivot making the slower lever lock up lower leaving that side of the trap open wider. I may be wrong but I doubt it. Also, I never said it wouldn't work, I just said it sounds like a bad idea.


Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6871906
05/13/20 10:48 PM
05/13/20 10:48 PM
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They should in theory arrive at the same time or at least to close to matter. You would need a high speed camera to tell.

The 2 spring side would obviously do more work which would make less work for the single spring side. I would guess they would arrive at the same time since they are all working to close the same 2 jaws.

The only way I can see it differently is if the single spring was super weak and the other 2 were super strong. Even then probably only milliseconds of difference .

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: Wanna Be] #6872513
05/14/20 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Originally Posted by Artrapper16
I bought two mb550 two days ago and an mb450 yesterday and I am in love. They are great traps.

I’ve been considering the 450’s. Let me know how they do for larger critters. I only have the MB550’s and never had an issue with them.

I'm not at all worried about that 450 holding a yote the springs are crazy strong lockup is very tight and its got the same gussetted frame as the 550 just smaller of course. Either way it's a beast of a little trap

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6872576
05/14/20 07:04 PM
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The 450 is not big enough for coyote in my experience. I had one get in a fox set and when I got there to check all i had was it's sock from about mid pad down. The grad won't catch high enough in my opinion band I would never intentionally set a 450 for coyote. The set I had that happen in was a fox set on a golf course in town. Didn't figure I had to worry about coyote there since I had been trapping it for 4 seasons prior and never noticed any sign. Just my experience, not saying bit won't hold one ever.


Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: T-REV] #6872682
05/14/20 09:15 PM
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I'm not at all saying go set the 450 for coyote intentionally but if you were needing a fox trap where you might catch a yote i feel it's a great trap.

Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: trappergbus] #6872938
05/15/20 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
Originally Posted by Archeryguy
I've been pleased with the Duke 550's although the levers could be a little stronger. With that said, in the future I'll go back to MB's . When my springs started to feel weaker I started adding a 3rd spring. Liked it so much that all my traps have been 3 coiled for years. Nice medium between 2 and 4 coil.

Interesting Archeryguy, what spring do you use to 3 coil?


I cut a Taos Lightening 4 coil spring in half and use a half on each trap. On the loose jaw.

Last edited by Archeryguy; 05/15/20 07:26 AM.
Re: Duke 550 vs MB 550? [Re: strike2x] #6872942
05/15/20 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by strike2x
Originally Posted by Archeryguy
I've been pleased with the Duke 550's although the levers could be a little stronger. With that said, in the future I'll go back to MB's . When my springs started to feel weaker I started adding a 3rd spring. Liked it so much that all my traps have been 3 coiled for years. Nice medium between 2 and 4 coil.

I don't like the thought of this. One lever is going to come faster. What happens to the slow lever and the trap jaws? Sounds like a bad idea.


Been doing it for years and have no issues. I'm pretty sure my catch ratio to empty sprung trap is much better.

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