Covid-19 stats are just not believable
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05/24/20 07:50 AM
05/24/20 07:50 AM
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Mark June
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Can a pathogen target a population group? Like a cruise missile. We have worldwide pandemic numbers and it seems COVID-19 prefers the land of red, white, and blue to everywhere else in this world. The U.S. has 6% of the worldwide population within its borders yet officials say we're tracking 35% of the worldwide cases? How can a virus, first discovered abroad, now be laser focused here? We have 330M people in this country and they tell us there's been 1.66M COvid-19 cases. Brazil has 209M people with 349,000 C-19 cases. India has 1.4B people and they report 132,000 C-19 cases.
Some speculate our healthcare has kept some alive and now they are susceptible, but Europe and much of the Middle East all have advanced medicine, and they don't have pandemic of this country's magnitude.
How can a virus, reported worldwide, only have one country in its sights?
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05/24/20 07:54 AM
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Hmmmmm let me guess. No other country has a Trump!!!! Did I guess right?
I hope all is well. God bless
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05/24/20 07:55 AM
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Been over this many times. The numbers in the US are exaggerated and they are cooking the books. A quick search for info online will explain it.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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05/24/20 08:07 AM
05/24/20 08:07 AM
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Mark June
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Morning Pawnee. All is well. Rain headed our way for a week and we sure need it BUT, trapping is going to get rugged. Pulled traps yesterday because you can't access these mud ranch roads when it rains. Ruts will last 1,000 years. I'll head back in when the rainy season ends. It'll be even hotter!
I think your Trump guess has merit, but I believe we live in a post-modern time when it's bigger than Trump. Ours is a way of life based on individualism and America is really the last holdout of our type of governance. The people governing. This is not how the majority of the world governments and leaderships work, evidenced by the fact that communism has been making a comeback in Asia and Central America in recent decades and we are all that stands in place against a whole list of bad people. We think of Russia when we think of Communism, but we are missing the big picture as the Communists march country to country. Socialism and Communism is a new norm and many with these ideals, even many Americans believe in this governmental governance. It's a real agenda. Has been since the turn of the 20th century.
It's just like Texas. Blue money is flowing non-stop into Texas these last few years. All progressive eyes are on Texas. Why? CA was turned. NM was turned. All the Northeast is turned. If they can turn TX blue.... It's over. Blue will be the new shade for a generation.
If the USA can be brought to bear, The world can move forward.
We're no longer a Christian nation. We're no longer teaching civics, so the younger generation doesn't even know how to spell civil war, or Vietnam. We're now people groups, pitted one against the other for other's gain.
But I remain a sheep with a different shepherd than most in this country and certainly when compared to the entirety of this world. And I smile because He is in control and always has been.
It does sadden my heart to see those with no hope, or fearful of what we do not understand, or who place false hope in masks, or whatever. Tomorrow will be a new mask and a new pandemic, rest assured, but Truth remains constant.
Saw a woman at a gas station yesterday, wiping down her straw with a wipe, even after the straw came out of a wrapper. I smiled, said, "hello", but she didn't respond. You see, I could be the person who kills here with a pathogen that I left on the soda handle. How very sad. People do not perceive they are now able to control their lives, and fellow Americas (people) will be held in contempt. You see in already on this site. Some will be in their masked world, with others viewed as the opposition to it. Some think we can control this type of scenario with hand wipes and shelter in place.
I gotta news flash. We've never controlled our lives at this scale. Not before. And not now. But there's never been a better time to take a kid hunting, fishing, or trapping!
Blessings! Mark
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05/24/20 08:14 AM
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look at the counties on the ny side of the line compared to the pa side.numbers game and hearing numbers from both sides of the line make it obvious.
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05/24/20 08:16 AM
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More cases equal more money here in the US it’s incentive to lie about the numbers to gain more aid, dead is dead so they toss everyone in the same category to suck up the bucks before the next state gets the money.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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05/24/20 08:20 AM
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I think even the ones that were questioning whether they'd be alive for trapping season on here have finally opened their eyes. It's no secret this has been the biggest over hyped sensation the United States has seen in a number of years. Even the CDC's talking head Dr. Fauci is now admitting prolonged stay at home orders is a horrible idea. I've been watching my kids play in the cow lots, fishing, and enjoying any free time I have off with them. Honestly, it has been kind of nice to slow life down a little bit. X2
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Re: Covid-19 stats are just not believable
[Re: Law Dog]
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05/24/20 08:27 AM
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Mark June
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More cases equal more money here in the US it’s incentive to lie about the numbers to gain more aid, dead is dead so they toss everyone in the same category to suck up the bucks before the next state gets the money. Law Dog, I see reports are becoming more numerous every day about the long term effects of the 650,000 cancer patients not being treated and on the long list goes. Isn't it incredible how the whole world (well America) stopped for months for a virus? My wife maintains no such crisis ever existed when the doc tells millions to stop smoking, lose weight, eat right, don't drink, etc. If folks don't want to get sick and die, she maintains it'd make sense that any memo given to us about how we could die, would make us alter our plans and habits. But we don't too much. We take pills if we can. It's better than changing life style. But there's no C-19 pill. Man, can you imagine if there was!
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05/24/20 08:40 AM
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Maybe we as a nation have let our guard down and communism is winning the battle. A sad thing but there is Hope. The war has already been won!
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05/24/20 08:44 AM
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They include all deaths as covid-19 But, as stated on another thread, the true impact should show up in total mortality from all causes. Is that up? and if so, by how much? If not they are cooking the books or covid deaths are compensatory mortality,
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05/24/20 08:52 AM
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Some states, Minnesota for one lists only laboratory confirmed cases. New York for example includes presumed cases. I know an EMT who says they remove numerous bodies from homes that are not tested and probable covid deaths so not counted. So maybe over counted in some states and under counted in others.
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05/24/20 08:58 AM
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I have been in five states in the last three weeks, and while I took some precautions, I didn't get attacked by this terrible plague! Running my fur routes to pick up fur from trappers, and most wanted to shake my hand, and I was not to frightened to shake theirs, if they wanted to! My wife rode along and helped with the work, and here in four days, will go to surgery and get a new shoulder. The Docs office called while on the road last week, and started asking questions, and they freaked out that we had been out of state and around so many people. She had to be tested on Wed for preparation for surgery, and was given a green light for it to proceed. While I wasn't tested, two people living as close as we do, I can say the chances that I would have it and her not having it, the odds would be extremely high!
The amount of people dying is rather low in reality if you take the same average number of deaths from all the other things that normally kill us, but mysteriously, no one has had any mortality from those things, it has all been blamed on the kung flu. Also funny, is that count is much higher in states that have a demonrat gov than those that are repubs. I for one am tired of the games and will not play their games, as most of the folks that can see through their nonsense. I can recognize a scam in this and won't play their game!
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05/24/20 09:00 AM
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05/24/20 09:04 AM
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05/24/20 09:08 AM
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Better safe than sorry
If one person in your family gets itcand dies the whole numbers thing would shut you down.
We have 2 in ours. One died... another 47 days in hosp.
I'm Not gonna banter! But until it hits home you feel immortal. I won't banter with you but there's family members losing family daily around this country with a whole lot more lethality than Covid. Yet we aren't addressing a number of those issues. What about the families of people lost to suicide, uncontrolled chronic conditions, and even delayed treatment of cancer throughout this "pandemic?" Everyone focuses on what Covid may or may not be doing. No one is watching the sleepers that are going to kill off far more people in this country. I will give you two real world examples. 60 year old with no health conditions and healthy as a horse. Has a known bad gallbladder that is considered "elective." Due to Covid-19 his surgery is delayed two months. He presents with fever, increasing abdominal pain, and is critical. His gallbladder that was stable but defective and needs removed has now caused an infection in his blood. Previously no health issues but almost dead. If he would have died I'm sure his family would have thought Covid hit really hard and not for the same reason as you. 13 year old honor student. Straight A student with no mental health history in her life. No health issues. Begins to feel depressed at home, worried about not finishing school for the semester, and the fact she hasn't been around any peers in two months. Downs a bottle of sleeping pills because she isn't coping well with isolation. Intubated (not because of Covid) survives. I'm sure her family has an outlook on Covid that doesn't match yours. It's all in perspective.
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05/24/20 09:17 AM
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But there's no C-19 pill. How could you have missed HCQ??? 95% cured within 4 hours. 99% cured within 4 days. (Helps to catch it early and not have any heart conditions.)
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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