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The guy should not have died in the manner that he did and the police involved should be held accountable. However, he is by no means some upstanding citizen. He was a violent career criminal that had just committed another felony (passing counterfeit money). When you have a rap sheet like that, and the morals to boot, how do you think your life is going to end? If it wasn't the cops this time, it may have been a drug deal gone bad next time or a homeowner with a gun at some point. I don't believe the "turning his life around" crap. Every criminal that gets killed was in the middle of turning their life around. I'm sick to death of that BS story. One thing is pretty certain, he probably wasn't going to die of old age, surrounded by loved ones after doing good his whole life. He died the way most violent criminals die. Violently. Not an excuse for the police involved by any means. I'm merely pointing out the probability. He was anything but the martyr the libs are trying to portray. Here's his sheet:
George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 for a fresh start after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery Floyd died on Monday after a white officer knelt on his neck while arresting him for allegedly paying with a fake $20 bill None of the officers could have been aware of Floyd's more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest The 46-year-old had left behind his past in Houston after being released from prison stemming from a 2007 robbery He plead guilty to entering a pregnant woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in jail for having less than one gram of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail He had another stint for a theft in August 1998
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Floyd's criminal history
[Re: Snowpa]
#6890120 06/04/2004:53 PM06/04/2004:53 PM
Saint George got 5 years for breaking in to a house and holding a gun to a woman's stomach while his partner searched for money and drugs. While not worthy of a death sentence it's close.
Saint George got 5 years for breaking in to a house and holding a gun to a woman's stomach while his partner searched for money and drugs. While not worthy of a death sentence it's close.
A pregnant woman no less.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Floyd's criminal history
[Re: Snowpa]
#6890125 06/04/2004:58 PM06/04/2004:58 PM
Many northerners don't quite understand those deep south terms , much less lived around them , as I have. That's a good thing, too, as traditional southern ways often have a sad past in treatment . The northern states , and Canada , have been largely spared such depressed attitudes . I wish all places were so.
I have seen you be a nice person on here, Boco... you must value good things and information learned in life. If you didn't, you wouldn't be so willing to add such helpful info on trapping techniques to help fellow trappers do their work better and easier, thus gaining in their lives and making better money from quality handled fur. Your videos on scraping easily a hide in sub zero weather , making that job easy . I thought that was so cool. You get no money from your advice, you offer it freely to help others. You have demonstrated a kind helpful nature to others.
Just like so many others here who do the same. That is what makes the type of people here so powerful.
Because of these things, I would like to pay back to you a wee bit of understanding, in the same motive as when you offer info to others that benefits them.
Candace is really , REALLY, not playing the Uncle Tom role.
I well know intimately, what that mindset is, being born and raised in the deep south back east. Quite different than the mid west to more northern black lifestyles. There are even different dialects in speech and terms among black cultures , depending on the south or northern area, and any interracial influence . Whole different worlds , just as in white cultures ...different dialects even among southern whites, depending on the state they live in.
I was partially raised by a black nanny of the old time southern tradition . Her name was Lula May , and she had more common sense than many whites.
The "Uncle Tom" role, is far different than anything Candace ever says, in word and the tone inflection she uses to articulate her thoughts. An Uncle Tom mindset not only reveals itself in simple , uneducated speech (even done on purpose when needed from a brilliant mind), it is submissive, placating, a countenance complete with body language of lowered eyes reminiscent of a servant to a boss.
The "Aunt Jemima " image , such as on the old syrup bottles , is a complete different genre . Of hard workers , yes, hired help who work their hands to the bone , often becoming very beloved members of the household or estates they work for, considered family . Not a few times has the "Aunt J." bailed out a white member, having their backs from trouble , even in legal matters. My Lula May was such a woman . She didn't take no mess from anyone. She gave me mindset of sayings to live by that I have never forgotten to this day. And that work.
Candace lowers her eyes to no one. Her very countenance in posture, facial expression and the brilliance of her thoughts articulated is as opposite to that old demeaning term as night is to day.
She is tackling a generation's old problem that few people of any race has had the courage to tell out loud, much less see and admit. She acknowledges the insulting terms that some whites have used , and the disgust is seen equally in her face.
The things happening these days , I especially think of people like our own Tman Tribe's resident black fella, wolfdog . Such a fun, friendly guy. What a world he lives in , the perspective he must have seeing two clashing colours, blend into a new colour tone he exists in, making it work for his happiness.
And how words from others must have deepened his discernment and patience in dealing with people , knowing most folks don't mean him harm.
None of this is about race. Candace pulls the veil away to simply show what has been an unspoken embarrassment to black culture for generations. She is trying to help all people to see the groups and organizations who take advantage of their own race, and anyone else along the way.
She reveals way beyond the incident at hand now- she shows the motives and undercurrent of control and political predation that has used these things for power and money.
Here we go again,I never said I thought she was an uncle tom/aunt jemima-that is how the progressive blacks view her as stated in many articles. Just pointing that out a fact. Not my view of her.
Last edited by Boco; 06/04/2005:16 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Floyd's criminal history
[Re: Snowpa]
#6890135 06/04/2005:21 PM06/04/2005:21 PM
It is puzzling how the media have been portraying him as a "Gentle Giant" who wouldn't hurt a flea, when he's had the history he's had. He didn't deserve being killed, but they should portray him accurately, rather than raising him to sainthood status.
Re: Floyd's criminal history
[Re: Snowpa]
#6890140 06/04/2005:22 PM06/04/2005:22 PM
Tough if not impossible to bring up past crimes in court a slick lawyer would make sure it’s suppressed. Like said it has nothing to do with him getting killed all they need to focus on is the training not being followed.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
Re: Floyd's criminal history
[Re: Snowpa]
#6890144 06/04/2005:28 PM06/04/2005:28 PM
His bad decisions didn't cause his death. A bad cop caused his death. What he was before or did before his death means nothing. He would never have been memorialized either if it weren't for a bad cop.
It is puzzling how the media have been portraying him as a "Gentle Giant" who wouldn't hurt a flea, when he's had the history he's had. He didn't deserve being killed, but they should portray him accurately, rather than raising him to sainthood status.
I imagine it is the same reason they reported that a WHITE cop killed an unarmed BLACK man. The true racist are fanning the flames and news like that could quench the fire.
Re: Floyd's criminal history
[Re: Boco]
#6890156 06/04/2005:45 PM06/04/2005:45 PM
Here we go again,I never said I thought she was an uncle tom/aunt jemima-that is how the progressive blacks view her as stated in many articles. Just pointing that out a fact. Not my view of her.
FINALLY SOME CLARITY!! Now I like you again.........for now.
Re: Floyd's criminal history
[Re: Rat_Pack]
#6890161 06/04/2005:50 PM06/04/2005:50 PM
Here we go again,I never said I thought she was an uncle tom/aunt jemima-that is how the progressive blacks view her as stated in many articles. Just pointing that out a fact. Not my view of her.
I see what you are meaning, phrasing it this way. I didn't get you the first time you wrote that.
She does take a lot of heat from them because they don't want to admit or look into the facts so they lash out with simpler insults.
If Floyd wasn't high on drugs and acting such in a store so as to alarm the folks working there , the police would not have been called to start with . Just another repeat of what he has been doing most of his life, evidently. It is sad it ended the way it did.
Attention could have been on people doing good things in opening up the economy.