Strictly Trapping


No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Trading Post
(Please support F&T Trading Post, our sponsor for the Trapping Only Forum)



TrappersPost
Please support Trappers post, a sponsor of the Strictly Trapping Forum



Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets #6905600
06/20/20 09:42 PM
06/20/20 09:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
1
12 point Offline OP
trapper
12 point  Offline OP
trapper
1

Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
Waxed dirt, glycol, hulls, calcium chloride, salt. What do you use and why? Why don’t you use the others?

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905623
06/20/20 09:59 PM
06/20/20 09:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 289
Michigan
D
Duckie1 Offline
trapper
Duckie1  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 289
Michigan
Waxed dirt or glycol/urine 50/50 mix works for me.

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905624
06/20/20 10:00 PM
06/20/20 10:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,162
N.E. Nebr
L
LDW Offline
trapper
LDW  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,162
N.E. Nebr
I use waxed sand. It works so good, I have no reason to try anything else. Have been using it for 5 years. Sand takes much less wax, however it's heavy. I trap off of a buggy, so weight isn't an issue for me.

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: LDW] #6905643
06/20/20 10:14 PM
06/20/20 10:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
1
12 point Offline OP
trapper
12 point  Offline OP
trapper
1

Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
I’ve been thinking of trying the waxed sand. I wasn’t sure if coyotes would steer away if sand wasn’t natural to the area. I thought of putting a skim layer of dirt over it for that reason.

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: Duckie1] #6905645
06/20/20 10:15 PM
06/20/20 10:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
1
12 point Offline OP
trapper
12 point  Offline OP
trapper
1

Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
Do you put the glycol/ urine directly on the set?

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905673
06/20/20 10:39 PM
06/20/20 10:39 PM
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 833
SD
B
Bison88 Offline
trapper
Bison88  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 833
SD
Waxed dirt for me. Nothing bulletproof but the next best thing

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905675
06/20/20 10:40 PM
06/20/20 10:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,650
Rodney,Ohio
SNIPERBBB Online happy
trapper
SNIPERBBB  Online Happy
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,650
Rodney,Ohio
The only issue I have had with wax dirt/sand is other than weight is that is doesnt blend well in the area. Looks dry Top coating with local dirt helps but cam still looks off to me,as the sand seems to dry out the top coat too, unless both are scattered widely about the set. Whether it bothers coyotes, I don't know.

Salt works well if it doesn't get too cold unless your using calcium chloride, both of which can be rough on unprotected traps after a while. Also causes a spot to to appear in the bet, but this time it's a wet one as salt attracts water. Top coating with non dirt/peat materials can hide it or again scatter it widely about the set instead of just in the bed

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905722
06/20/20 11:24 PM
06/20/20 11:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,162
N.E. Nebr
L
LDW Offline
trapper
LDW  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,162
N.E. Nebr
I trap in sandhill pastures, so coyotes are used to it. Once in awhile, the sand might be a different color. If that's the case, I cover with a very thin layer of native dirt. The sand also packs much better than dirt.

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905746
06/20/20 11:57 PM
06/20/20 11:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 5,081
montana
R
red mt Offline
trapper
red mt  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 5,081
montana
Here I do not have a choice if I want to catch fur freeze proof a set or go home.
As far as wax dirt blend the set pretty simple.
The rest of the methods will work some times .
Wax dirt will work most of the time but like said above nothing is bullet proof . Wax dirt is as close as they make or you make lol.


Kenneth schoening
Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905786
06/21/20 12:50 AM
06/21/20 12:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,155
Marion Kansas
Y
Yes sir Offline
"Callie's little brother"
Yes sir  Offline
"Callie's little brother"
Y

Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,155
Marion Kansas
I can get by pretty well with try dirt and salt here

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905803
06/21/20 03:35 AM
06/21/20 03:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 845
southeast nh
M
mushfoot Offline
trapper
mushfoot  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 845
southeast nh
i use wax dirt in some and peat moss and flake anti freeze cover with grass in some

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905827
06/21/20 05:34 AM
06/21/20 05:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,365
W NY
Turtledale Offline
trapper
Turtledale  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,365
W NY
Waxed dirt then light covering of peat then blend in. The freeze/ thaw, rain / snow conditions here make freeze proofing a must most of season


NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905833
06/21/20 06:03 AM
06/21/20 06:03 AM
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,355
Firth, Nebraska
jabNE Offline
trapper
jabNE  Offline
trapper

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,355
Firth, Nebraska
Waxed dirt is best I've used here. Anything else with any moisture from air or ground freezes up like a rock in mid winter here.
Jim


Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy you a trapping license and that's pretty close.
Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905906
06/21/20 08:19 AM
06/21/20 08:19 AM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,497
PA
P
PAskinner Offline
trapper
PAskinner  Offline
trapper
P

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,497
PA
Peat is cheap and actually works pretty good once you learn not to go crazy and try to actually bed the trap in it. You can blend a bit and put some anti freeze such as glycol on top when needed.

Just chopped grass seems to work pretty good too in some places. The grass has to have water pretty much laying in it to freeze solid.

We used a lot of hulls on our little Cat line last year. They look pretty natural in the woods and don't freeze easy.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: PAskinner] #6905922
06/21/20 08:43 AM
06/21/20 08:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
1
12 point Offline OP
trapper
12 point  Offline OP
trapper
1

Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
Can you explain the grass method? I’ve never heard of it.

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905930
06/21/20 08:58 AM
06/21/20 08:58 AM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 5,445
Southern Michigan
T
trappergbus Offline
trapper
trappergbus  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 5,445
Southern Michigan
I've used most every method known to man, waxed dirt is a good as it gets. It's not how many sets you have in the ground, it's how many WORKING sets you have in the ground. I over wax mine so it backs.


Common sense catches alot of fur..
Pay homage to all you harvest..
Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905950
06/21/20 09:30 AM
06/21/20 09:30 AM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 2,895
NNY
0
080808 Offline
trapper
080808  Offline
trapper
0

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 2,895
NNY
12 point. Take a look at Mark Zaggers method.

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6905958
06/21/20 09:48 AM
06/21/20 09:48 AM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 158
Iowa
K
KJD357 Offline
trapper
KJD357  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 158
Iowa
Used to make 50-100 gallons of wax dirt a year, now I’ve cut that number in half thanks to Zaggers bedding method.

Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 12 point] #6906007
06/21/20 10:54 AM
06/21/20 10:54 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,619
Nebraska
WadeRyan Offline
trapper
WadeRyan  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,619
Nebraska
Bone dry peat moss. Very hard to beat. You have to plan ahead and get it dried out. You can’t buy it the day before you set it. Once dried properly it will repel quite a bit of water. A little table salt down to 5-10 degrees will keep most sets working even freeze thaw.

That being said when it gets really nasty I do have some type of wax sand/dirt. I’m becoming partial to wax sand for all the reasons LDW stated. Other than an ice storm it’ll work through the worst Nebraska usually has to offer.


Follow me on YouTube if you’re bored

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5Ulx1woYMmCN3IPLB0wwFw


Re: Advantages/disadvantages freeze proofing sets [Re: 080808] #6906032
06/21/20 11:32 AM
06/21/20 11:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
1
12 point Offline OP
trapper
12 point  Offline OP
trapper
1

Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 82
West Central Illinois
I assume you’re talking about the “Pipe Dream” set? So, on this set, is the trap somewhat elevated off of the trap bed? And, if you beat the sides in towards the jaws wouldn’t that cause the jaws to freeze up? Obviously this set works because you hear so much about it. I’m just trying to wrap my head around it.

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

Moderated by  Drifter, Wolfdog91 

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1