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A thought for you #6914762
06/29/20 04:59 PM
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yrs ago I made the comment that in 60 years this will be like south africa. If you have something of value on your person someone will try to take it away from you. If you don't give it to them they will kill you or injure you. If you give it to them they may do those things anyway. Now most of our cities have reached that stage of social decay.


BILLY GRAHAM’S SON IS TELLING THE SAD TRUTH – NEVER SAID BETTER

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Time is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice, because the
flow that has passed will never pass again. Franklin Graham was
speaking at the First Baptist Church in Jacksonville , Florida , when he
said America will not come back. He wrote:
“The American dream ended on November 6th, 2012. The second term of
Barack Obama has been the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of
the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled
and developed the greatest republic in the history of mankind.
A coalition of blacks, Latinos, feminists, gays, government workers,
union members, environmental extremists, the media, Hollywood ,
uninformed young people, the “forever needy,” the chronically
unemployed, illegal aliens and other “fellow travelers” have ended
Norman Rockwell’s America .
You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual
acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get
back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take
zealots, not moderates and shy, not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs
(Republicans In Name Only) to right this ship and restore our beloved
country to its former status.
People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will
probably never again be able to legally comment on or concern myself
with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture,
our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired.
The Cocker spaniel is off the front porch, the pit bull is in the back
yard, the American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky’s
“Rules for Radicals” and the likes of Chicago shyster David Axelrod
along with international socialist George Soros have been pulling the
strings on their beige puppet and have brought us Act 2 of the New
World Order.
The curtain will come down but the damage has been done, the story has
been told.
Those who come after us will once again have to risk their lives,
their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that
this generation has timidly frittered away due to white guilt and
political correctness..”
Got the guts to pass it on? You bet I do and just did….
IN GOD WE TRUST


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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914808
06/29/20 06:13 PM
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Very good Lee.


Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914885
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LOL

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914914
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That's right Lee but we can get back vote early and often don't play nice.

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914929
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Oh Boco, you want to be listed along with the blacks, latinos, feminists, gays,etc, etc? I didn't see anywhere else that even had anything to do with canadians! I believe we need to be forming malitias to be getting ready for what looks to be the inevitable.


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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914944
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I'm ready to get the show on the road. I'd rather handle it than my kids or grandkids... I'm afraid most won't step up until its too late in fear of losing their homes and money.

Re: A thought for you [Re: Yes sir] #6914949
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'm ready to get the show on the road. I'd rather handle it than my kids or grandkids... I'm afraid most won't step up until its too late in fear of losing their homes and money.


Patience, get fit and get ready in the meantime. My guess 2028 is when it hits the fan.

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914961
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Seth, I'm like you, not getting any younger. But I think we need to let them step on the cow pie first, then it's justified. They are getting close to that, and I don't think it will last til 2028. It keeps up, I don't think two years is out of the question. And it could be considerably less than that.


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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914962
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Donner you are an optimist, I don't figure near than long and in fact sooner than later.

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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Donner you are an optimist, I don't figure near than long and in fact sooner than later.



Sooner the better but in the end winning is what matters, public perception needs to shift before it kicks off because right now it would be a disaster.

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6914997
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They also ain't taken anything from me!!! The only thing I will give them is lead

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915083
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I believe Nov 2020. Election Day is the day. Trump wins the Liberals will go crazy. If Biden wins they will start dismantling our freedom. You will have to make a choice. I hope I am wrong. But I will not denounce my savior Jesus Christ. I will not live on my knees.

Re: A thought for you [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6915098
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'm ready to get the show on the road. I'd rather handle it than my kids or grandkids... I'm afraid most won't step up until its too late in fear of losing their homes and money.


Patience, get fit and get ready in the meantime. My guess 2028 is when it hits the fan.



My guess is we will know the time when it gets here but I cannot believe it isn't on the way and soon


"Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children."
D. Trump
Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915100
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And yes- I agree with you 100% Larson- we let this happen it is our job to fix it for our kids and their kids.


"Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children."
D. Trump
Re: A thought for you [Re: steeltraps] #6915132
06/29/20 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
They also ain't taken anything from me!!! The only thing I will give them is lead


This clip from John Wayne in "Chisum" is relevant !!! laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uiiXw2WqV0

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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915141
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Are we still allowed to say John Wayne, the wife said they are complaining about him now. I just got a couple of John's old movies today to watch to night. Wonder if I should pull the blinds, lol.

Re: A thought for you [Re: Foxpaw] #6915152
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Seth, I'm like you, not getting any younger. But I think we need to let them step on the cow pie first, then it's justified. They are getting close to that, and I don't think it will last til 2028. It keeps up, I don't think two years is out of the question. And it could be considerably less than that.

Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Are we still allowed to say John Wayne, the wife said they are complaining about him now. I just got a couple of John's old movies today to watch to night. Wonder if I should pull the blinds, lol.

They are throwing John Wayne under the bus now!!! If that doesn't make it justified i don't know what we would fight for. Lol

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915155
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John Wayne has been branded as a bigot and a racist.
Blasphemy!

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915194
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I hate to say too much but I wonder if maybe they should disarm us b4 the complete re-writing history. Tactically speaking I think they had better.


"Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children."
D. Trump
Re: A thought for you [Re: Yes sir] #6915214
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'm ready to get the show on the road. I'd rather handle it than my kids or grandkids... I'm afraid most won't step up until its too late in fear of losing their homes and money.


Well said


Hal is my Hero
Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915217
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Oh Boco, you want to be listed along with the blacks, latinos, feminists, gays,etc, etc? I didn't see anywhere else that even had anything to do with canadians! I believe we need to be forming malitias to be getting ready for what looks to be the inevitable.


I believe (subconsciously, of course) Boco IS listed here!


We can't move forward, until we let the past become history.
Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915255
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I have a buddy from South Africa. He had enough when his arm was out his car window while sitting at a red light and someone stabbed him with a Phillips screwdriver and stole his car.

Re: A thought for you [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6915289
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'm ready to get the show on the road. I'd rather handle it than my kids or grandkids... I'm afraid most won't step up until its too late in fear of losing their homes and money.


Patience, get fit and get ready in the meantime. My guess 2028 is when it hits the fan.


If you can’t get fit, invest in a good rifle with a scope and spend some free time on the long range or take a chemistry class.


"Forgiveness".......because there is no Time Machine.

-Goofy-
Re: A thought for you [Re: Boco] #6915339
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Originally Posted by Boco
he forgot Canadians.

He didn't forget.He was talking about OUR great republic.He left you out because you are subjects of the queen.Hahahaaa

Last edited by upstateNY; 06/30/20 09:13 AM.

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Re: A thought for you [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6915376
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


If you can’t get fit, invest in a good rifle with a scope
and spend some free time on the long range
or take a chemistry class.


Or read the right-wing favorite: "Anarchist Cookbook". laugh

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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915410
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Where do you find said copy , Walleyed? A man needs to know his enemy!


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Re: A thought for you [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6915422
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Where do you find said copy , Walleyed? A man needs to know his enemy!

Gun shows, pay with cash.

Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


If you can’t get fit, invest in a good rifle with a scope and spend some free time on the long range or take a chemistry class.


There is no excuse for a able bodied male of fighting age to be unfit, if you are unfit get fit and get the good rifle and scope.

Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915451
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We are on a slippery slope for sure, look how much has changed since 1/1/2020.

Re: A thought for you [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6915461
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Where do you find said copy , Walleyed? A man needs to know his enemy!

Gun shows, pay with cash.


Yup,

Gun shows where they also sell Bill Clinton bashing bumper stickers !!! laugh

You'll find it on the bookshelf indexed right beside "The Turner Diaries".

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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6915672
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I've led a sheltered life, never have made it to a gun show! lol. Always too busy doing something else, but I've made it to a ton of trapping conventions! I do think our lives will be put on hold in not too distant future, by all the insanity!


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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6920416
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Check the source - Was it Graham?

2nd


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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6920435
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Ballot box, jury box, bullet box.

Ballot box: I can pretty much guarantee what will happen if Trump is reelected... Which leads us to the jury box: Law and order cannot be relied on, or even worse, are not allowed to be relied on.

That leaves the final box.

Mike


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Re: A thought for you [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6920507
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Christianity has been on the decline in the Western world since the great Renaissance more than 500 years ago.
During that era, astonishing feats of mankind have taken place, no less the founding of a new nation called America.
Born of Libertarians, who saw the individual as the frontier and the corporate authority as the model to be outcast.
Most of our founders were Godly men, but they were not orthodox Christians, rather following the Enlightened liberal theology and philosophy flowing from Europe, as they labored to cut their ties from it.

Dr. Graham is correct IMO. Time marches on. We think of ourselves as the same as humans have always been, but we are not, and our nation is not.
We see it all around us, and we wonder, where are we headed? My kids? My grandkids?
We are headed to further individualism and humanism. Further into the "rights" of me, and further from the respect for the corporate. This is pretty clear.
We won't stop it, as it has been rolling for centuries across the globe.
Me is king, And authority over me is to be dead! That is the post-modern.

But there is always hope. Always.
Not in violence of one side versus the other. History has much of that, and will have more no doubt.

Some of us, a shrinking number, humbly ask the Creator of all, to continue to Bless us and our nation, for His Purpose, not ours.
Or else, He hands us over to our own devices, and history has never had a nation succeed when that happened. Never.
America will be no exception. We think other people's didn't believe they were the greatest nation that's ever been? Sure they did.

God decides.
We wish it were us. But we all die in the end.
His Truth keeps flows eternally as the True Living Water.

Good post Lee!
Blessings!
Mark


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Been ready!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Great post as well as Mark June's but, wasn't Dr. Graham who opined!


“In God is our trust!” And the star-span-gled ban-ner in tri-umph shall wave O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Francis Key
Re: A thought for you [Re: Leftlane] #6921949
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
I hate to say too much but I wonder if maybe they should disarm us b4 the complete re-writing history. Tactically speaking I think they had better.


Try you mean they had better try .... Because the day they try that on my turf I'll be in the news.


I do all my own stunts ..... but never intentionally
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
I've led a sheltered life, never have made it to a gun show! lol. Always too busy doing something else, but I've made it to a ton of trapping conventions! I do think our lives will be put on hold in not too distant future, by all the insanity!



One piece of advice if you go to one.......take lots of money, lots and lots if you like guns. smile

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I like guns. Not as much as some, but we own quite a handful and I don't even know where they all came from after all these years.

But I don't seek a brighter tomorrow through the gun in my holster, or the guns in my gun safe.
I seek it with a face pointed toward Heaven.

That might be old fashioned in these days of human brilliance.
Maybe illogical myth to others.

Maybe.
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well mark, like it or not you may need those guns to protect your right to practice that faith


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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I hate to say too much but I wonder if maybe they should disarm us b4 the complete re-writing history. Tactically speaking I think they had better.


Try you mean they had better try .... Because the day they try that on my turf I'll be in the news.




Yes- you are correct- try.

Mark- I struggle with this one but in the end- I have decided I believe that some anger and outrage at least can be righteous. What it actually boils down to is this: We let the country get this way- I cannot in good conscience leave it to your children and my own without doing what ever is necessary to get it back on the right path. I know you are strong in your faith and deep in your knowledge of the scriptures but there is something inside of me that has the urge to say "no more- not one more step- not this time"

I know full well I have been commanded to obey the law of the land. Perhaps a wonderful debate topic (respectful debate of course) would be what is the law of this land. Is it the inalienable rights given to use by God and outlined / guaranteed in the bill of rights or is it this string of travesties twisted and proclaimed by politicians and judges like the ones who could not find a right to abolition so they just added it along the way.

I know where I lean on that one- I am curious how you see it?


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
well mark, like it or not you may need those guns to protect your right to practice that faith


Lenin executed Christian clergy, so you may be spot on danny.
Spot on.


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Originally Posted by Mark June
Originally Posted by danny clifton
well mark, like it or not you may need those guns to protect your right to practice that faith


Lenin executed Christian clergy, so you may be spot on danny.
Spot on.


When did Christians go from this
[Linked Image]

To this

[Linked Image]


And why?

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LL,

We should probably render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and render to God the things which are God's; Matthew 22:21, is perhaps my starting point but this topic has layers. Like pealing an onion. I place traditional Christian faith priority in the following order; God, spouse, children, yet our nation isn't listed in the Bible, so where do I place the blessings (MANY!) we have as citizens of it? It's not an easy answer for anyone.

I guess, first I wouldn't render our nation as God. Some do. They swear at God, and swear an allegiance to America. That's not Biblical and sure doesn't follow any tenet of this nation's founders, who saw all as created equal by the Creator = God. But we should absolutely offer prayers that God's Will be done with this fine nation, as it was crafted as a testimony in His name, by Christians 250 year ago.

Second, Scripture has passages about righteous acts and Scripture about passive acts, all in the name of the Lord. So what do we do? Fight? Flee? Protect? Not bother?
Let's being with this. Anger can be sin but not all anger is sinful. That is VERY important.
Paul, in Romans 12:9, tells the Roman believers; "Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil."
There are more texts like this.

Abhor the evil. We are called to root out that which is evil, but are we doing it for God's purpose and we're fairly clear we have a good sense of it, or are we just P'ed off and someone has to pay?

Abhor the evil. Christians incorrectly gauge all anger as sinful, but that is not correct.
Abhor the evil. Do something about it, but do it for America as a beacon of Godliness, not just because this is the greatest nation ever.
Abhor the evil. Protect our loved ones.

You see I'm trying to point the Glory to God, not a country, or your best bud, or any other reason on earth. It is VERY hard to do. We all cross the line into just plain P'ed and we pray He's in charge, not us.

Abhor the evil with righteousness.
Impossible to do if you're not a follower.
Hard to do if you are a follower.

Blessings!
Mark


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Donnersurvivor,

Answering that pictorial may depend on whether a person is a Christian.


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Originally Posted by Mark June
Donnersurvivor,

Answering that pictorial may depend on whether a person is a Christian.

well if ya'll want to make Constantinople great again count me a Christian, if you just want to convert the third world and bring the converts over here, count me out.

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Originally Posted by Mark June


Abhor the evil with righteousness.
Impossible to do if you're not a follower.
Hard to do if you are a follower.

Blessings!
Mark


I don't agree with you there Mark. One can do the right thing even if one does not believe in the christian version of a deity. I hold no grudge about anyone. (Well maybe Left Lane a bit on friday nights). But if anyone tries to do harm to me or mine. They have just gone past their sell by date. I would not take that measure for any ideology, political or otherwise. But I will protect my family at all costs. Just because I don't ask a god to forgive me for my actions does not make them more or less righteous. The act in itself is the same.

ATB

Michael

edit. Of course thats just my two cents worth and probably worth not even that.

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When did Christians go from this
[Linked Image]

To this

[Linked Image]


And why? [/quote]

I have no issue with this pic, although, I don't have context either. If you have a problem with this pic WITHOUT context, then I feel our nation is doomed.


We can't move forward, until we let the past become history.
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Originally Posted by Yukon John


I have no issue with this pic, although, I don't have context either. If you have a problem with this pic WITHOUT context, then I feel our nation is doomed.


Pope washing the feet of Muslim immigrants to Europe.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Yukon John


I have no issue with this pic, although, I don't have context either. If you have a problem with this pic WITHOUT context, then I feel our nation is doomed.


Pope washing the feet of Muslim immigrants to Europe.


I DO have a problem with that then...just trying to help some of you realize that things aren't always what they seem. (Although I'm sure it will befall deaf ears)


We can't move forward, until we let the past become history.
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Originally Posted by Yukon John

I DO have a problem with that then...just trying to help some of you realize that things aren't always what they seem. (Although I'm sure it will befall deaf ears)


What purpose did that last part serve? "(although I'm sure it will befall deaf ears)". Why would you assume I am not open to new information and instead of trying to educate me assume I am closed minded and unwilling to yield? Why throw that little dig in there?

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Yukon John

I DO have a problem with that then...just trying to help some of you realize that things aren't always what they seem. (Although I'm sure it will befall deaf ears)


What purpose did that last part serve? "(although I'm sure it will befall deaf ears)". Why would you assume I am not open to new information and instead of trying to educate me assume I am closed minded and unwilling to yield? Why throw that little dig in there?


Donnersurvivor, I didn't mean you specifically, just those on the thread, that, like myself, have been somewhat close minded on this whole "movement". Please accept my apologies, I'm simply trying to convey that sometimes we can't take things at face value.

Ultimately I should have just kept my thoughts to myself, I have a hard time doing that at times. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Yukon John


Donnersurvivor, I didn't mean you specifically, just those on the thread, that, like myself, have been somewhat close minded on this whole "movement". Please accept my apologies, I'm simply trying to convey that sometimes we can't take things at face value.

Ultimately I should have just kept my thoughts to myself, I have a hard time doing that at times. Thank you.


I just completed a hike with a 50 pound pack, maybe I was a bit to willing to assume the worst, its all good.

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Donnersurvivor, it's late man! Maybe sometime we can start anew.


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Originally Posted by Mark June
I like guns. Not as much as some, but we own quite a handful and I don't even know where they all came from after all these years.

But I don't seek a brighter tomorrow through the gun in my holster, or the guns in my gun safe.
I seek it with a face pointed toward Heaven.

That might be old fashioned in these days of human brilliance.
Maybe illogical myth to others.

Maybe.
grin


Form the movie The Patriot:

"Sometimes the shepherd must protect the sheep from the wolves".

Someone has to be the shepherd or the sheepdog.

Pray for discernment.


The world is full of sheep and wolves.

Be the sheepdog.
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Mark June
Donnersurvivor,

Answering that pictorial may depend on whether a person is a Christian.

well if ya'll want to make Constantinople great again count me a Christian, if you just want to convert the third world and bring the converts over here, count me out.


Understood. I wouldn't be the dude to talk to because the non-denominational Protestant believes that the power of conversion occurs by the power of the Holy Spirit. We would have them hear the Word (Gospel), lest how will they choose what they do not know, but we wouldn't slap on the armor and make them convert. That has happened in the history of Christianity by those who were more interested in their power than the workings of God.

Or by another monotheistic religion, that continues to do it today = Islam.


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