Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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06/30/20 09:02 AM
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Larry Baer
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Its up to you. It's personal preference. It's like saying Ford or Chevy. I use walnut hulls to dye and then I wax traps. One year I bought new traps and never even hosed them off and used them right out of the box. It worked fine. I always wax my canine traps if I do nothing else because it makes them work well. Paint can do that. Just do what you like and try it out. All of the things you mentioned will work fine. You will get several opinions. There is no combo to this.
Dye and or paint protects the trap from rusting Wax makes them fast but also protects them
For me it is all about making my traps last and making it work and the wax works good here in illinois
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: Larry Baer]
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06/30/20 09:26 AM
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Its up to you. It's personal preference. It's like saying Ford or Chevy. I use walnut hulls to dye and then I wax traps. One year I bought new traps and never even hosed them off and used them right out of the box. It worked fine. I always wax my canine traps if I do nothing else because it makes them work well. Paint can do that. Just do what you like and try it out. All of the things you mentioned will work fine. You will get several opinions. There is no combo to this.
Dye and or paint protects the trap from rusting Wax makes them fast but also protects them
For me it is all about making my traps last and making it work and the wax works good here in illinois Thanks, I knew it was about protecting them and wax making them faster makes sense. I just did not want to mix things and end up with a goopy mess and have to start over plus the work to get the goop off
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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06/30/20 01:34 PM
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The Beav
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It makes no sense to put one coating over another. You either wax or use some other type of dip no reason to put one coating over another. Except when your dyeing then you should wax over that dye. Since for the most part dye gives you no protection. Then of coarse there's no sense In dying. LOL The bottom line Is this after a few catches your coating will be gone and your trap won't have any protection.
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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06/30/20 02:01 PM
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BT, the linked post gives some explanation of why folks dye and wax. It is not about the color, it is about the chemical change that takes place. Rust Protection
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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06/30/20 02:17 PM
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Larry Baer
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Do you guys have any coatings that last for a whole season? I got some KO traps that Kendall put some kind of powder coat on and they looked pretty good even after three seasons.
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: QuietButDeadly]
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06/30/20 02:26 PM
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BT, the linked post gives some explanation of why folks dye and wax. It is not about the color, it is about the chemical change that takes place. Rust ProtectionThanks, learned a little bit from that link ;)b
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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06/30/20 06:03 PM
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TEJAS
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So my question is what is the combo?
I was all set to paint and then dip in FMJ but then I read that if you make something like the "pipe dream" that the coyotes can possibly smell the trap. Most of the trappers I know use a single product BT. I’ve used FMJ for four years and found that it works extremely well. In that time I've seen no evidence whatsoever that a coyote can detect cured FMJ in any situation. Here are a few MB 550’s that were dipped six times in FMJ. This photo was taken after two seasons of use & multiple coyote catches in each.
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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06/30/20 06:17 PM
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The Beav
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Are those traps covered In rust? If so I wouldn't be using FMJ.
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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07/01/20 10:11 AM
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The Beav
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So In other words FMJ doesn't really protect the trap all that well. It just looks good while they are hanging In the shed. LOL
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: TEJAS]
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07/11/20 10:20 AM
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You Betcha Beav!Rust never sleeps when you’re catching a bunch of coyotes that use your traps for a chew toy! And in all that sand any trap treatment gets taken off..
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: kyron4]
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07/11/20 12:30 PM
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I guess I'm old school. I dye using walnut hulls and then wax. More work but I like the decades old tradition of dyeing and waxing on a cool October morning. I'm with you kyron4 except I use sumac bark and wax. I like the old school ways too, and it works fine for me
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Re: Trap treating question
[Re: BTLowry]
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07/11/20 09:32 PM
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I dye and wax also. One thing I do that may be a little different is I have two different wax pots. One gets a marble size chunk of pine rosin to make the wax less brittle and a small pine bough simmered in the hot wax for a few minutes presto pine scented wax for the traps I use in the mountains pine forests. For the traps I use in the sage brush yep a little bees wax for the brittleness and a sprig or two of natural sage in the pot for a few minutes. I know they can smell my traps but I want the traps to smell like the vegetation around them.
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