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Beaver T-bar without welder #6918768
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Does anyone know how to make a T-bar for a beaver drowner without a welder?

Now I could get a welder, but I would need a mask, I would need to train to use it....I would need supplies, I would need to store it properly, and use it once-per-year. I have too much to do right now.

Has anyone reliably made something out of rebar or whatever with a little "loop" or "stopper" on top?


Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918772
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Yep
Forged a loop at both ends AFTER installing angle iron slide lock, which only took a saw and drill to make.
Have ya considered the bolt on versions available?


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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918775
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.... or are you only asking bout th t-stakes that secures the top of a drowning rod?


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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918778
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Does it have to be a T?
You can find a nut just bigger than rerod and with a bfh beat it on.

just

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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918813
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So If your talking about building a T bar being used as a stake here's what you can do. Cut your re bar to length the slip on a nut. Place the nut about 2 " down on the re bar then smash It In place. Depending on your re bar diameter you will have to use some flat stock to make your T Lets say you are using 1/2" re bar you would need a piece of 3/4 or better yet 1" flat stock. Drill a hole in the flat stock slip It on to the re bar place another nut In place and smash It tight. And now you have a T bar stake with out welding.


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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918853
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What is a beaver t- bar ? I only stake for beaver on terminal end if positive not pull stakes, hard tell, have had big beaver drowned an last time try it, 2- 30 inch long , 1/2 t- bars that were cross staked, driven into sand to hilt in deep water. An then push down more yet , below surface. With a foot an half long 1/2 rerod driven in deep on bank side of drown wire. Had the 2 deep end stakes up on bank with beaver tangle up, big 40-50 lbs beaver, I now use gunny sack with sand fill, in deep end, beaver cant pull up an tangled trap the pin go though coils I think usally up in gunny sack an expired deeper water. I have used 2 cross staked stakes like bfore mention , but not drown setup, an just by bank with long extension chain , like 6 ft heavier chain on 3 coil in non drowning set up, in soft sand, beaver not pull stakes, it just when at drown setup , beaver can wring out to , in front foot, never had this problem if not tangle up, had toenails in trap more once though an no beaver

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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918900
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Use a feed sack ......... rocks .piece of string to tie it shut............. wire ............ done

Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918922
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Don't need much training to do welding on our scales

Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918938
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NYhuntfish...

Given that you are in the US, you should have access to Harbor Freight. At HF, you can purchase an FCAW welder for about $90 on sale. It is the size of a milk crate and comes with everything you need to buzz up some t-bars including a crappy face shield.
You can get an auto darkening face shield on Amazon for around $40 USD

I know not everyone has even $130 in their budget, but you may want to consider it as an option to expand your equipment and skill set.

A couple of youtube videos and you're off to the races.


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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918945
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The poster doesn't want to do the welding thing.
If I could drive a T bar In at each end of my drowning system It would be a cold day In hades when I would go to filling bags for drowning weights. Work smarter not harder.

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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918978
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Thank you all!!!

I think might try smashing the nut. I did not know you could do that. I thought it would be too hard. Thanks!


Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: slydogx] #6918979
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Originally Posted by slydogx
NYhuntfish...

Given that you are in the US, you should have access to Harbor Freight. At HF, you can purchase an FCAW welder for about $90 on sale. It is the size of a milk crate and comes with everything you need to buzz up some t-bars including a crappy face shield.
You can get an auto darkening face shield on Amazon for around $40 USD

I know not everyone has even $130 in their budget, but you may want to consider it as an option to expand your equipment and skill set.

A couple of youtube videos and you're off to the races.


Thanks. My problem with the welder is my friend who welds a lot told me essentially to waste the money on a stick welder and to wait until I get a mig welder and do it right. That's what I was planning on. I don't know.


Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918981
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No problem nyhuntfish,
Just FYI, the HF welder is a wire feed welder... like a MIG but no gas shielding. It will help you to inexpensively build all the related skill sets for MIG once you have a gas set up.
If you really need a "T" bar, you could try wiring it together with some 14 ga. wire I guess... but the smashed nut is probably easiest


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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: slydogx] #6918984
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Originally Posted by slydogx
No problem nyhuntfish,
Just FYI, the HF welder is a wire feed welder... like a MIG but no gas shielding. It will help you to inexpensively build all the related skill sets for MIG once you have a gas set up.
If you really need a "T" bar, you could try wiring it together with some 14 ga. wire I guess... but the smashed nut is probably easiest


Do those little wire feeds have enough oomph to weld up half inch rebar? I've used them doing body work on sheet metal but thought that was pretty much the limit.

Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6918991
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Originally Posted by nyhuntfish


Thanks. My problem with the welder is my friend who welds a lot told me essentially to waste the money on a stick welder and to wait until I get a mig welder and do it right. That's what I was planning on. I don't know.


Problem solved.

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If schools ever get back to a regular schedule take the rod parts you have (cut to dimension and length) and go to the shop class at the high school. Ask the instructor if they are close to or are headed to the welding sector of shop. Explain what you would like and ask if they could do the welding for you if you make a donation to the class (I get by with 3 extra large pizzas for their Thanksgiving party), You get your rods and they get the experience................ the mike

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On my trap stakes I always just heated it wit a torch and flatten it with hammer
Originally Posted by The Beav
The poster doesn't want to do the welding thing.
If I could drive a T bar In at each end of my drowning system It would be a cold day In hades when I would go to filling bags for drowning weights. Work smarter not harder.


Be a cold day in the sahara before I go packing rebar around when a feed sack weighs around 3 ounces , !!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT all sets are next to road or trail............................ Plus rocks are almost every where..............

Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: nyhuntfish] #6919064
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But you have to carry a shovel LOL


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Re: Beaver T-bar without welder [Re: jbyrd63] #6919067
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
On my trap stakes I always just heated it wit a torch and flatten it with hammer
Originally Posted by The Beav
The poster doesn't want to do the welding thing.
If I could drive a T bar In at each end of my drowning system It would be a cold day In hades when I would go to filling bags for drowning weights. Work smarter not harder.


Be a cold day in the sahara before I go packing rebar around when a feed sack weighs around 3 ounces , !!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT all sets are next to road or trail............................ Plus rocks are almost every where..............


Rocks are almost non-existent around here. I'm getting set up for footholds this year too, and unfortunately the options are scoop loon (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) into a sack or carry rods, or weights.

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Carry the rods they don't weight that much. It's not like your going Into a location and setting 20 traps.


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